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Andrew



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Cap Badge: RAOC
Places Served: Bicester-Soltau-Canada-Kineton-Paderborn-Osnabruck-Donnington-Civy Strasse.
Registration date: 2008-10-22

PostSubject: Crusader 80   Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:38 am

Anyone remember this one? it was a huge exercise in Germany in 1980 believe it or not! Thousands of troops involved but as far as we were concerened (1 ADOC) it was the most boring exercise ever, although I'm sure the OC would disagree. We simply deployed to a village location (cant remember where) cammed up the waggons with brick hess and waited for something to happen, nothig did happen and a couple of weeks later we packed up and drove back to Soltau. Smaller exercises were better for individual units (imo) much more to do and the OC would have more scope to do his own thing rather than the Brigadier calling the shots.
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nobby clark



Number of posts: 92
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Places Served: baor-Hong Kong-Malaya-Borneo-Belize-F.I.-Cyprus-N.I.-UK.
Registration date: 2008-04-07

PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:28 pm

Crusader 80 was a holiday in the country for me and the rest of 43 RP coy 1CSB.
The weather was good and all we had to do was inload and outload several thousand pallets of Simmo,a doddle.
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Andrew



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Registration date: 2008-10-22

PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:19 am

That brings back memories of exercises at 5 Ord Bn. Outloading all that simmo then spending the next fortnight in some farmers courtyard as we slowly sent it all back to Depot 90. One thing I must say, what a massive improvement the JCB was over the Beaver. A warm dry cab with a heater luxury.
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griff029



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Localisation: Leeds/Tanygrisiau
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Places Served: Lemgo, Wolfenbuttel, Herford
Registration date: 2008-11-05

PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:40 pm

Hello all,

first time on here as part of a huge nostalgia overload.
Crusader 80 was fun. We were Corps recce and spent a lot of time as enemy. Seem to remember seeing a chieftan from Bovington so they must have been scraping the barrel.
All a complete sham really. When we deployed to the Gulf in 90 we had to get bods and stuff from all over the place and only managed to put three squadrons in the field instead of four

griff029
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Andrew



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:11 pm

Hello Griff, yes indeed this site is a huge nostalgia trip. I remember the RWF at Lemgo, me & a mate had to pick up some kit from the gym there, tug-o-war ropes if memory serves.

I know what you mean about scrounging kit for the Gulf in 1990. At the time I was attatched to 23 Engr Regt (Osnabruck) a third of the regiments AVLBs were none runners but we still took them to Saudi because we had no spares for the ones that did run. The none runners were cannibalised at the FMA in Al Jubail then abandoned. We were running on elastic bands and gaffer tape.
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jim



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Places Served: Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:25 pm

Andrew, I know that Technically I was RAOC, but as I was A staff Clerk, what is an AVLB? Smile
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soprano54



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Places Served: Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Fallingbostel, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date: 2007-03-10

PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:49 pm

jim wrote:
Andrew, I know that Technically I was RAOC, but as I was A staff Clerk, what is an AVLB? Smile


Armoured Vehicle Launched Bridge..............Bridgelayer!
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Andrew



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:33 am

jim wrote:
Andrew, I know that Technically I was RAOC, but as I was A staff Clerk, what is an AVLB? Smile


Apologies, only just spotted this one. Yes Soprano is quite right, the AVLB was essentially a Chieftain with the turret removed and bridge on top.

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/army8b5.htm
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jim



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Places Served: Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 am

Cheers guys.
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SteveB0456



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:26 pm

I remember this one we were engineer support and spent the entire 3/4 weeks parked next to a main line railway where every hour on the hour an express train rumbled by at a great rate of knots
Wasn't there are another big exercise a couple of years later in 82 I seem to remember working with the yanks on that one and we mobilised the TA as well
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Shep



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Places Served: Menden, Paderborn, Soest
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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:48 pm

I´d just been posted from 44 RP Coy 3 Armd Div HQ & Sig Regt, I spent the Exercise up in Hildesheim. my main job being to drive the New Zealand DGOS around the Country in a Safari Landrover.
Had to be the best exercise ever for me, he would always insist on eating in German Restaurants as he loved German food,
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armaniwoe



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:50 pm

HI guys,

have a look at these link at the german "Panzerbär - Forum".

There are many pics from Crusader 80 / Spearpoint 80!

http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=2078181&r=threadview&t=3380431&m=16248918#16248918

Best regards
Arnd
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298HALL



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:01 pm

I well remember Crusader 80 - I'd been in Germany less than a year and had little realisation just how big (and rare) an exercise of this sort was !

As part of 3 Armd Div HQ and Sig Regt we (33 Armd Bde) were umpires - our squadron following 4 Div's HQ around all exercise.

I have some photo's from the exercise somewhere - not very good but I will post them if anyone is interested.
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Mike_2817



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PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:16 pm

I had just been posted from 44 (RP) Coy at Sennelarger to CAD Kineton, and ended up back in BAOR with 92 (Regular Shadow) Coy as i/c of 461 Equipment Section a 'Shadow' Unit of 1CSB.

Where you ask? camped on the grass near to Depot 90 and our MkII Eager Beavors were never even unloaded from the 10 Ton Knockers that had carried them over from the UK. We were in reserve was the story. Bloody good nights out anyway!

For comfort the JCB won hands down, but for manoeuvrability & speed at work you could not beat an Eager Beaver!
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alan8376



Number of posts: 82
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Localisation: Norfolk, UK
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Places Served: Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, Dhekellia Cyprus, Waterbeach, Civi Street
Registration date: 2009-07-28

PostSubject: Re: Crusader 80   Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:23 pm

Come on now! How many pedal boxes did you squash in your time, be it either model of the Beaver?

Regards
Alan

PS. A Peddle box fixer!

PPS. I was also on Crusader 80 as an Umpire
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