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PostSubject: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 20:18



Might bring back some memories?
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PostSubject: Formal Dress, for the right person   5/2/2011, 20:28



Hi Jim,
I believe this was at Osnabruck, dad was a Cpl and is just stood behind the Queen mother. The person circled was one of my dads good mates, Michael Dent - now lives in Queensland Aus.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 21:06

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Hi Jim,
I believe this was at Osnabruck, dad was a Cpl and is just stood behind the Queen mother. The person circled was one of my dads good mates, Michael Dent - now lives in Queensland Aus.

Put me right Dave.

Clearly, the picture is of a Hussar Regiment who had the Queen Mother as their Colonel.

I was QOH, we also had the Queen Mother as our Colonel.

Which regiment is it in the picture you posted ?
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 21:10

9/12th Royal Lancers, I don't know if at the time if they had amalgamated or not, Dads Reg was 9th Lancers before unification with the 12th
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 21:18

Dave Gill wrote:
9/12th Royal Lancers, I don't know if at the time if they had amalgamated or not, Dads Reg was 9th Lancers before unification with the 12th

9th/12th ?

Sorry mate,

well I'll go to the foot of our stairs ! Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 21:21

brum wrote:
Dave Gill wrote:
9/12th Royal Lancers, I don't know if at the time if they had amalgamated or not, Dads Reg was 9th Lancers before unification with the 12th

9th/12th ?

Sorry mate,

well I'll go to the foot of our stairs ! Embarassed

I haven't heard that expression in years Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   5/2/2011, 23:41

9/12th were at Detmold when I first went there. QOH took over when they left for pastures new.

Did hear a story that you could not become an officer in the regiment unless you had money? If so, a bloody disgrace in my humble.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 06:28

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9/12th were at Detmold when I first went there. QOH took over when they left for pastures new.

Did hear a story that you could not become an officer in the regiment unless you had money? If so, a bloody disgrace in my humble.
When I was attached to the 16/5th at Osnabrück, they had officers who were baronets, etc. They could be really
toffee-nosed.
Most cavalry officers consider themselves elite. I was in the pay office, one day, when a captain came in to use the phone. He was struggling to make himself understood in German, so I offered to translate for him. I might have been something that had fallen off his shoe, from the way he looked at me. " I am perfectly capable of carrying out a conversation in German, thank you", he said, and continued to make a fool of himself.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 15:49

Teabag wrote:
9/12th were at Detmold when I first went there. QOH took over when they left for pastures new.

Did hear a story that you could not become an officer in the regiment unless you had money? If so, a bloody disgrace in my humble.

I am led to believe that my father went for his commision / passed all the exams / but then he was told there was no vacancy. I know my father was clever, he left not long afterwards.


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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 18:47

two names that come to mind from my time in the 15/19H,were, MAJ the right honerable sir peter lewis,and CPT the lord ashby-de-la-zouch, [yes i know it is a town in the midlands ] but that was his title,and all the ex rankers who were commisioned first made the rank of WO1, then returned to the regiment as MTO capt.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 19:09

dandc wrote:
two names that come to mind from my time in the 15/19H,were, MAJ the right honerable sir peter lewis,and CPT the lord ashby-de-la-zouch, [yes i know it is a town in the midlands ] but that was his title,and all the ex rankers who were commisioned first made the rank of WO1, then returned to the regiment as MTO capt.

Hi dandc, didn't they have wo2? then wo1. Not sure, crown and wreath then afterwards just the crown? - can't remember
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 20:28

I think at one time in the Gunners we had a Major Naismith of Posso, the younger. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 20:54

of course they had wo11 as well,i am talking about the wo,s that were commissioned were wo1,s at least while i was with the regiment.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 21:35


Did hear a story that you could not become an officer in the regiment unless you had money? If so, a bloody disgrace in my humble.[/quote]

If the bit above refers to QOH, teabag, then that's another urban myth.

There were officers who didn't have money (I suppose you'd describe them as Lower Middle Class) but they had to struggle keeping up with a social life that was imposed on them, incurring big Mess bills.

An example would be, officers were required to play polo while we were in Cyprus. It all went on in a dust cloud at Happy Valley. A couple of officers I was driving around were complainig they couldn't afford to play (cost of hiring the ponies etc.).

Interestingly, the Have-nots were the biggest a...holes. Some of the well-off officers were the nicest blokes you could hope to meet.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 21:41

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Did hear a story that you could not become an officer in the regiment unless you had money? If so, a bloody disgrace in my humble.

If the bit above refers to QOH, teabag, then that's another urban myth.

There were officers who didn't have money (I suppose you'd describe them as Lower Middle Class) but they had to struggle keeping up with a social life that was imposed on them, incurring big Mess bills.

An example would be, officers were required to play polo while we were in Cyprus. It all went on in a dust cloud at Happy Valley. A couple of officers I was driving around were complainig they couldn't afford to play (cost of hiring the ponies etc.).

Interestingly, the Have-nots were the biggest a...holes. Some of the well-off officers were the nicest blokes you could hope to meet. [/quote]

It's an age thing Brum. 9/12th Lancers I was refering to. QOH seemed okay but they were mainly Brummies. Keep up!
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 22:21



Keep up ?

How very DARE you !

(Getting cocky, just because The Wirral was on tonight's "Country File! !) tongue
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   6/2/2011, 22:41

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Keep up ?

How very DARE you !

(Getting cocky, just because The Wirral was on tonight's "Country File! !) tongue


Was it? More interested in Liverpool beating the plastics of Chelsea. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   11/2/2011, 00:49

Ill go t foot of our stairs, my grandad used to say that. he also used to fart with gusto, and proclaim 'who let polly out of prison" much to the disgust of my gran
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 15:22

This bring back any memories, had a job there last year, not much left of it now.

OK so where did the pictures i uploaded go?.

Just read the blurb, what a load of j arthur rank, pictures were not for general consumption, only for this board so can't host them elsewhere.

Never mind, soon be Christmas.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 15:34

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well I'll go to the foot of our stairs !

I haven`t heard that since i left the army.I always assumed it was a county thing,probably Yorkshire.Anyone know how it originated or what it was meant to express????
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 21:33

We certainly used it in Lancashire.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 21:44

Dolmetscher wrote:
We certainly used it in Lancashire.


I allways thought it was a Lancashire expression.

As to its meaning - well "F... me drunk !" would just about cover it, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 21:59

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Ill go t foot of our stairs, my grandad used to say that. he also used to fart with gusto, and proclaim 'who let polly out of prison" much to the disgust of my gran


Steve,

You might be able to help with this one (allbeit not fart related)

In the QOH (late 60s) we had quite a few Fijians, mainly from Suva.
The Regiment was better for them, I might add.

The thing is, squaddies being what they are, a lot of crap was generated about Fijians, much of it Urban Myth.

It was said that the higher your social status in Fiji the longer your surname.

For example, a bloke in Recce Troop was called Tamani. It was said that he was a Sub - Chief and that his name was shortened by the Army to make it more manageable and, in fact, his actual name went halfway across his records folder.

Could there be any truth in this ?




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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   12/2/2011, 23:52

Pinch of salt?
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PostSubject: Re: 1960's NIreland   13/2/2011, 09:49

Brum,
According to Wikipedia, if a Fijian was a tribal chieftain he would have RATU in front of his name. So if Joe Tamani was a chief he would have been called Ratu Joe Tamani. As in many Regiments the Fijians provided a high percentage of the Unit boxing and rugby teams, as was the case with the QOH when I was with them.
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