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PostSubject: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   9/3/2011, 16:26

Am trying to find out the location of the Civil Internment Camp No 2 in the British Sector in Germany. My grandad was posted there at the end of 1945, and so far I've drawn a blank in finding where it was. Many thanks for any clues.
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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   9/3/2011, 17:12

Carol

You could try the National Archives at Kew

Would offer to help but a recent visit shows there are over 12 thousand separate files dealing with the early days of British Forces in Germany

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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   9/3/2011, 17:47

There was a CIC 2 in Bonn

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C.I.E. 2


Located in British Zone
No 2 CIC"
On card dated 23.7.46 from Wilhelmshaven, addressed to "2. Civil Internment Camp / Via Bonn"

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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   20/3/2011, 10:42

Hi guys

Success! The CIC 2 War Diary for 1945 at Kew National Archives indicates that CIC 2 was Sandbostel, northern Germany.
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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   20/3/2011, 13:36

Glad you were successful in your quest, interestingly there is a vague link with another ongoing quest elsewhere on this site
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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   20/3/2011, 14:43

Here is an interesting site.

http://www.dpcamps.org/slaveCampsR-S.html

Scroll down to SANDBOSTEL

Althought the term Civil Internment Camp'is used within the context of this thread. I would also use the term 'DP Camp' (Displaced Persons) as well when doing searches. It seems to be the more commonly used name.

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PostSubject: Re: Civil Internment Camp No 2?   17/3/2014, 15:48

British – Civil Internment Centre(s) under British Military Admin: Estab was 5 Offrs and 82 - 92 OR. There would be increments (Guards, Outer security, Med Staffs, Dvrs etc) from nearby or garrison units. Staumühle Lager had a Searchlight Battery and the Resident Inf Unit from Schl. Neuhaus as QRF. There was political uncertainty and friction between the military occupiers and the concept of the Control Commission for Germany becoming the Standing power for the BR sector so it was 15 Apr 46 before the Home Office supplied appropriate Prison Staffs to the UK Foreign Office who ran the Internment Camps through CCG instead of the military.


CIC No1 at Neumünster
CIC No 2 at Sandbostel near Bremervorde (formerly PoW Camp Stalag Xb
CIC No 3 at Fallingbostel (formerly Stalag XI b)
CIC No 4 at Recklinghausen
CIC No 5 at Staumühler between Sennelager and Hövelhof (had been numbered No. 92 by US Forces up to May 45) (formerly SS Reinforcement Barracks) see WO171/ 8302 at PRO Kew for War Diary
CIC No 6 at Neuengamme near Hamburg (formerly Konzentrations Camp (KZ) Neuengamme.
CIC No 7 from Sep 46 at Eselsheide (Stukenbrock-Senne) [had been at Hemer "Camp Roosevelt" up to Sep 46] ( formerly Stalag 326 VIK - Rusian PoW)
CIC No 8 at Westertimke (30 km NE of Bremen) (had been Marlag for RN and Milag for Interned Merch Navy pers) see http://www.usmm.org/milag.html
CIC No 9 at Esterwegen near Papenburg in Emsland.
101 Prison Camp Esterwegen after Jul 46
No 1 Civil Internment Settlement Adelheide nr Delmenhorst (May 47 - Aug 48)
No 74 Combined Services Interrogation Centre Bad Nenndorf (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Nenndorf_interrogation_centre
or
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/apr/03/uk.freedomofinformation)



CCG (BE) – Control Commission for Germany (British Element) at Lübbecke (1st Leader: Sir Hugh Brian Robertson)

COGA – Control Office for Germany & Austria (Leader: John Burns Hynd MP followed by Lord Pakenham 1947)) FO 1032/2228

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PostSubject: CIC No 6   14/12/2018, 14:24

Pborn3 wrote:
British – Civil Internment Centre(s)  under British Military Admin:  Estab was 5 Offrs and 82  - 92 OR.  There would be increments (Guards, Outer security, Med Staffs, Dvrs etc) from nearby or garrison units.  Staumühle Lager had a Searchlight Battery and the Resident Inf Unit from Schl. Neuhaus as QRF.   There was political uncertainty and friction between the military occupiers and the concept of the Control Commission for Germany becoming the Standing power for the BR sector so it was 15 Apr 46 before the Home Office supplied appropriate Prison Staffs to the UK Foreign Office who ran the Internment Camps through CCG instead of the military.


CIC No1 at Neumünster
CIC No 2  at Sandbostel  near Bremervorde  (formerly PoW Camp Stalag Xb
CIC No 3  at Fallingbostel  (formerly Stalag XI b)
CIC No 4  at Recklinghausen
CIC No 5  at Staumühler between Sennelager and Hövelhof (had been numbered  No. 92 by US Forces up to May 45)  (formerly SS Reinforcement Barracks) see WO171/ 8302 at PRO Kew for War Diary
CIC No 6  at Neuengamme near Hamburg (formerly Konzentrations Camp (KZ) Neuengamme) FO1032/2232 at Kew.
CIC No 7  from Sep 46 at Eselsheide (Stukenbrock-Senne) [had been at Hemer "Camp Roosevelt" up to Sep  46]  ( formerly Stalag 326 VIK  - Rusian PoW)
CIC No 8 at Westertimke (30 km NE of Bremen)  (had been Marlag for RN  and Milag for Interned Merch Navy pers)  see http://www.usmm.org/milag.html
CIC No 9 at Esterwegen near Papenburg in Emsland.
101  Prison Camp Esterwegen after Jul 46
No 1 Civil Internment Settlement Adelheide nr Delmenhorst (May 47 - Aug 48)
No 74  Combined Services Interrogation Centre Bad Nenndorf  (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Nenndorf_interrogation_centre
or
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/apr/03/uk.freedomofinformation)



CCG (BE) – Control Commission for Germany (British Element) at Lübbecke (1st Leader: Sir Hugh Brian Robertson)

COGA – Control Office for Germany & Austria (Leader: John Burns Hynd MP  followed by Lord Pakenham 1947)) FO 1032/2228  

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