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PostSubject: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 04:59

G'day again, talk of National Service takes me back to when we lived in Married Quarters in UK, Germany, Hong Kong. I recollect on many occasions, my old man arranging for one of the young national servicemen from his Regt, coming over to our place to mind me and my siblings, whilst my Dad and Mum, were off to the WO'/Sgts. Mess for some social acitivity, which was often, you know what it was like.

The babysitters, loved it..got some time away from the barracks, got fed and watered with nice sandwiches, beer etc. And looked after us kids very well.

Any of you blokes, have memories of such 'extraneous duties?' alien
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 08:48

I used to babysit quite a lot when I was single. I wasn't much of a drinker ( still not ) so if I wasn't the nominated driver at the weekend I would babysit. One of the blokes had a huge record collection and him and his Mrs would come home and find me asleep on the chair , head phones on records scattered all over the floor....... The extra money came in handy too.

One young lad used to babysit for us as long as we had a pot of percolated coffee on the go and a few packets of custard creams. The kids loved him ( he was practically a kid himself ) maybe he missed home.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 10:21

I baby sat my SSMs two daughters at Herford.I met them again at Blandford a number of years later WOW..Why didn`t i keep in touch?? Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 15:42

Yes I babysat occasionally. It was indeed pleasant, for the reasons described. It was weird to be actually in a living room of a home after months in a Barrack Room.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 19:25

i was a regular but still baby sat in my spare time. 10 bob a night and food and drink in the fridge. ginger
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   12/6/2011, 22:14

Not so much baby sitting although there were kids in the household, it was house guard for our unit WO1 (Chief Clerk, CSO Branch, GHQ MELF, Nicosia, Cyprus) 1954, where for a time I lived in and escorted him to and from work .. great cooking from his wife,

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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   14/6/2011, 18:40

Not National Service but I baby sat this lad in 1965

http://www.specialforcesroh.com/browse.php?mode=viewiroll&rollid=4670

His dad was my senior sergeant in boy service later Lt Col we are still in touch...thanks to Gordon for the link
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   14/6/2011, 20:42

Hi There Beachley Boy....... Yes i to used to babysit. I was the regt mt clerk,and it was for the mt sergeant,There were two children but never saw them, and it was mostly saturday evenings,he picked me up at about 6ok and brought me back to barracks sometime after midnight. A fry up was allways left for me and plenty to drink........Could'nt say no could i. Alan.B
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   15/6/2011, 19:16

I am back in touch with one of our baby sitters from the 60s, thanks to t'internet
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   16/7/2012, 16:14

I was a bus escort and used to accompany a german driver to pick up the kids from married quarters. One day a sargent stormed into our billett shouting my name. I was sh---ing myself. Turned out he wanted me to babysit his kids. They had obviously mentioned my name. He was our pay sargent and he and his wife were absolutely dreat to me. Not only did I babysit but they invited me for meals, especially sunday lunch. They were geordies and he was called Herby. They also invited my wife over for two weeks and of course I stayed with them as well. Would love to be in touch again.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   18/7/2012, 09:20

I used to baby sit my SSMs two daughters,must have been in their early teens and a right pain in the arse..Met them some years later at Blandford..Two gorgeous young ladies but still a pain in the arse... Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   18/7/2012, 17:49

[quote="Jeff Bentley"]I was a bus escort and used to accompany a german driver to pick up the kids from married quarters.

Bus Escort !! Blimey, I'd forgotten that !
I only got nobbled for it once, thought, "should be a good skive, sitting on a bus, minding the kids".
Never did it again, the little swine ! affraid

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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   18/7/2012, 19:36

i had a better skive siting on a bus , as president and treasurer of the cpls mess in the old viersen depot , it was my duty to arrange all regtl dances , that involved organising the buses to pick up the wrac and wraf ladies from rheindahlen. i of couse had to escort the ladies to and from their barracks , best job i ever had , and you would be surprised how many muckers i had when they wanted to help me escort the ladies , . WOW ginger
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   19/7/2012, 14:45

One of the best jobs I had, bus escort. Did it for three months. Excused guard ( that was enough for me ) plus as I said got to babysit for pay sargent. Brill. It was getting close to being a human being again after all those, (what can I say ) maybe Di..k heads controlling my life.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   19/7/2012, 16:59

16 LAA bought a bus for families' shopping & recce transport for the lads when it wasn't commandeered for the officers' sports activities. The daily run to the NAAFI shop in Osnabruck took off around 1000 hrs from the Guard Room,picked up from Married Pads, fare was 10 pfg. which at 12 DM to a £1 was nowt. Another Regt. duty was entered on the list, that of NCO i/c Bus, Conductor & Fare taker.

We didn't have much prior contact with families & I never knew of anyone who baby sat, but it quickly became obvious that wives gloried in the rank structure and a SNCO's wife thought she ruled the roost when the Duty Conductor was a mere JNCO & an NS squaddy to boot. One wife in particular would never pay the fare, always had some excuse, always smirked when she got away with it.......
..... Jeff, you might have guessed I was the awkward sod, insisted she would pay......., it was a battle of wits & I reckoned mine were sharper............. " I'll pay on the return journey" she advised. I made sure she would, or someone else would put in the kitty on her behalf. She tried it on again, I held the bus from moving to address the rest. Told to the seated wives that Mrs. X had no money, would anyone pay her 20 pfg so she wouldn't have to walk ? The 20 pfg was paid, the donor shouted out she wanted it back, the rest gave gentle applause for Mrs. X's carry on was well known.

It didn't end there, of course. RSM's interview next day, he had only been given half the tale. I had a bit of a dressing down about being respectful to a SNCO's wife, but the RSM saw sense. Husband was dragged in later, his wife always had the right change after that.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   19/7/2012, 19:42

cartav , a lot of people dont believe me when i say we paid 15 pfennigs for a glass of beer . two marks for a box of 25 cigars . they were happy days when it was 12 marks to the pound , we lived like lords , ginger
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   19/7/2012, 21:38

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cartav , a lot of people dont believe me when i say we paid 15 pfennigs for a glass of beer . two marks for a box of 25 cigars . they were happy days when it was 12 marks to the pound , we lived like lords , ginger


Too right Gingerjim ! But to put it in context, I remember that, before I was called up, an older mate was double chuffed when he got £10 a week for the first
time. Chuffed ? You thought he'd won the Pools ! I guess the average workers wage must have been around £5 to £7 a week

And when, at the bottom of the NS pile, we could only draw £1 a week out of our four bob a day, each spend of 15 pfgs.had to be carefully monitored.........
Hey ! just worked it out.... that's 80 glasses to the £1 ! I could live on that, but was it really that cheap ?


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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   19/7/2012, 23:18

Just before i came out in 70,there was a big pay rise that put me on £20 00 a week,a target that you could never have dreamed of in 59.Went into civvy street and doubled it straight away... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 07:18

I remember as a kid in Glasgow going to the shops with a £1. I could get 40 cigs, a bottle of whisky, a bottle of rum, 2 bags of sugar and a Sunday roast. Couldn't do that nowadays - too many security cameras about. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 08:04


I remember one afternoon in the early 60s, there was a bunch of us reading orders.
A pay rise was announced and a sergeant standing with us said, "...k me, I'll be on a thousand pound a year soon !"
Such a ridiculous notion, nobody could earn THAT much. How we all sniggered. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 09:53

When I finished in '86 as a WOII, I was on £12k pa - a multi millionaire. Pay & allowances are a bit different these days. I believe Soldiers are paid in the region of £7k allowance for Afghanistan.
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 10:42

Shelldrake wrote:
When I finished in '86 as a WOII, I was on £12k pa - a multi millionaire. Pay & allowances are a bit different these days. I believe Soldiers are paid in the region of £7k allowance for Afghanistan.


Late '80's was when I was existing on £40 a week from the DHSS after redundancy! Taught me to live on nowt, and it only went on for 6 months. I got back into a job eventually, and managed to pick a bit doing drawings for garages & house extensions etc., and even a church conversion into a mosque, but getting readies out of the congregation was a job in itself. That kept me with enough to put margarine on the bread for 18 months.

I've just checked Army Pay Scales, Brian............ WO II ranges from £ 36 K to
£ 43 K p.a., not much different from a captain........ OK, OK a WO II is better
value. maybe ! And even a cpl. can draw up to £ 33 K. No wonder that drill square at Osnabruck was full of BMWs & Mercs when we went back ten years ago !
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 12:19

These days a Junior Soldier starts on £13,895 and a Private on posting to his first unit a minimum of £17,265

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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 19:48

i joined up in 56 . pay £3 a week , the civvie job i had left paid £6 a week , i got demobbed in 59 as a sgt on £14 a week , i was working as a removal van driver when i got married for £8 a week , so really the army pay was not too bad when you had promotion and trade pay . ginger
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PostSubject: Re: NATIONAL SERVICE - CHILD MINDING/BABY SITTING   20/7/2012, 23:11

£14.00 a week seems rather a lot for a Sgt. in 59.???Did that include marriage allowance and LOA?
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