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Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 73 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 14:05 | |
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 14:09 | |
| I`m in the lucky half which have neither. |
| | | BigJock WOI
Number of posts : 117 Localisation : €uroland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Arborfield, Bordon, Osnabrück, Paderborn and once again Paderborn. Registration date : 2011-06-14
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 14:42 | |
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 15:03 | |
| I don`t mind Jock |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 16:17 | |
| Have to admit that my Great Grandmother was German. | |
| | | gingerjim Col
Number of posts : 487 Cap Badge : raoc Places Served : blackdown brackley , belgium . viersen Registration date : 2011-03-21
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 19:15 | |
| i grew up during the war , saw out the blitz and the doodlebugs, we were bombed out three times,so i was always full of hatred for the germans, i was posted to viersen in 56 , in all the time i spent in germany, that hatred ceased , i actually liked those people, got on well with them , spent great times in german company, dont get me wrong i mean actual germans . not the turks who occupy germany today, i made many friends enjoyed the food , the booze ,the customs and the lovely country as a whole, the vast majority of the people i find were like us they never wanted the war, but as usuall like today the politicians are mad keen on war, when i got home my mother used to ask me questions about germany and its people, when i told her the devastation was probably worse out there and showed her pictures i do believe even my old mum understood my liking for germany and its people, ginger, | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 19:57 | |
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| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 73 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 20:14 | |
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| | | "john boy" Maj Gen
Number of posts : 939 Age : 61 Localisation : shrewsbury Cap Badge : acc Places Served : aldershot/albermarle bks ouston-father LI- gib- berlin NI- lemgo- colchester- shrewsbury-tidworth left82 Registration date : 2010-12-30
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 21:08 | |
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| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 73 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 21:18 | |
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 22:17 | |
| When`s the chateau warming Teabag? |
| | | "john boy" Maj Gen
Number of posts : 939 Age : 61 Localisation : shrewsbury Cap Badge : acc Places Served : aldershot/albermarle bks ouston-father LI- gib- berlin NI- lemgo- colchester- shrewsbury-tidworth left82 Registration date : 2010-12-30
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 21/6/2011, 22:54 | |
| - Quote :
Meet my Gran Hidie If that`s your gran,i can`t wait to meet your mum |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 22/6/2011, 06:11 | |
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| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 73 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 22/6/2011, 11:42 | |
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| | | "john boy" Maj Gen
Number of posts : 939 Age : 61 Localisation : shrewsbury Cap Badge : acc Places Served : aldershot/albermarle bks ouston-father LI- gib- berlin NI- lemgo- colchester- shrewsbury-tidworth left82 Registration date : 2010-12-30
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 22/6/2011, 15:46 | |
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| | | gingerjim Col
Number of posts : 487 Cap Badge : raoc Places Served : blackdown brackley , belgium . viersen Registration date : 2011-03-21
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 22/6/2011, 19:11 | |
| the only thing i never liked about german girls ,was the wooley vests and long johns they wore in the winter, it took too long to get aqainted , ginger | |
| | | steve jones Capt
Number of posts : 210 Age : 71 Localisation : Christchurch, NZ Cap Badge : REME Places Served : AAC Carlisle, Bielefeld, Werl, Munster, Arborfield Registration date : 2008-04-08
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 03:04 | |
| I never met one wearing long johns, and in general i have to say getting aquainted usually didnt take too long | |
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 03:26 | |
| Recall the times I was in some bar in Muenster and some German girl would come up to you or your mate and asked for sex. But the battle of the bulge soon fizzled out when you then realised that its Sekt , the BabyCham that she is after. |
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| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 07:06 | |
| I didn`t find anything wrong with them at all....But then i wernt to fussed about what they looked like.Something to do with Herfy i think |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 07:55 | |
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| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 93 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 11:22 | |
| Early days, (in the 1950's again), can't say we got on too well, but then I was part of an army of occupation who'd helped the Yanks rub their noses in it. Guess we'd have been the same if the Wehrmacht were lording it about in UK. Funny though, never met one in those days who'd fought against the Brits....... they only mentioned the Ruskies & the cold. Just once, when a mate and I took a train to Bramsche some 7 miles outside Osnabruck, to taste the local brew there, we were well received, Brit soldiers were almost unknown. Quite a night at a Feste with an oompah band...... We missed the last train back, decided to walk but then were caught up by a kid on a 125cc DKW. He insisted the two of us should get on the back, wanted to show how fast it would go. He was on the tank, I was on the proper seat, Jock was on the pillion. He'd never been on a bike before, never realised there were foot rests, and sobered up before we'd done 100 yards. Same in Salisbury when we were posted back......... locals saw squaddies as trouble.
Always remember one young lad of Kraut origin..... Germany got sovereignty back in '55, were allowed to have an army again. He couldn't wait to join up, we sneered at his ignorance. "Germany", he said "Fought the whole world for 5 years ! No one else could do this....." He wondered why we said they might have had some of the best kit, but they must have been bloody stupid.
Later, with more contact with the locals & and one Fraulein in particular, I learned to like the Germans. Not all, they could be noisy & arrogant, but so could travelling Brits. I liked the cleanliness, the way of life in the smaller villages & towns, the wine, the beer & Bratwurst! | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 70 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 18:16 | |
| the whole question of Germanic origins, or at least influence, in British, particularly English, blood lines is one that strikes me as a "Duh! Ya think??" sort of situation. Of course there is!! Angles, Saxons, even the Normans were all Germanic tribes....Vikings too (which is what the Normans originally were....Normans-Norsemen-North Men....who invaded a section of Gaul/France, established themselves, and formed what became The Land of The North Men, or Normandy...lots of money, lots of influence, lots of power). Even the English language has Germanic roots to it, although it is also heavily influenced by other languages, most notably Latin. But our 'basic' words have a Germanic base. The "old Anglo-Saxon" words, I mean. "House" (Haus), "Beer" (Bier), "Field" (Feld), "Bear" (Bare), "Hand" (Hand), and of course various swear words Goodness, even the House of Windsor is, originally, German! George V changed the family name, derived from Prince Albert, to "Windsor" (after Windsor Castle....the family name could have just as easily have become Buckingham, I suppose....) from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, just as Mountbatten changed his from Battenberg. Apparently, even in George V's era, the Royal Family spoke German "at home"....and George I and II, apparently, (being Hannoverian) couldn't even speak English! Ironic....Frau Windsor is such the epitome of Terribly Terribly British! Up to WWI, to say nothing of WWII, this German connection of the Royal Family was just accepted and not really seen as that big a deal...all the royal families of Europe mixed it up with all the others so of course there was going to be some cross-pollination....didn't want to end up like those freakish Hapsburgs, you know (and, boy, towards the end there, they were FREAKS!!! Damn spooky.....). Of course, the British Royals were a bit limited in choice, seeing as how they couldn't marry Roman Catholics, so right there they were out of the dating and mating game with 2/3's of Europe or whatever it worked out to be....so naturally, it was German royal houses they cast a matrimonial eye to, Scandinavian, Dutch maybe but they did seem to favour German stock. Heavens, even Queen Victoria herself was "German" and Alberta was a cousin so we get a loop of German genetics coming back into the Royal Family through Albert. Now, with the present bunch, we got an infusion of Danish through Phillip....even though he was actually a Prince of Greece, he isn't "Greek" but "Danish". As a Danish Prince of Greece I really don't know if he was Protestant (as most Danes) or Orthodox (as most Greeks and I would think their Royal Family would reflect this -- I assume he converted to Church of England to marry Lizzie....he'd rather have to, wouldn't he?). Even the name "England" is Germanic....Angle's Land. It is the events of the 1930's that skewered the whole British-German connection/shared heritage thing (well, that, and that damn Cousin Billy...Kaiser Wilhelm....nut case!) and that's a shame. | |
| | | gingerjim Col
Number of posts : 487 Cap Badge : raoc Places Served : blackdown brackley , belgium . viersen Registration date : 2011-03-21
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 19:41 | |
| are you trying to tell me adolph hitler could have been my oncle, ve haf vays ov silencing du. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Ich bin ein Kraut 28/6/2011, 20:28 | |
| - Stephen Lock wrote:
- the whole question of Germanic origins, or at least influence, in British, particularly English, blood lines is one that strikes me as a "Duh! Ya think??" sort of situation. Of course there is!!
Angles, Saxons, even the Normans were all Germanic tribes....Vikings too (which is what the Normans originally were....Normans-Norsemen-North Men....who invaded a section of Gaul/France, established themselves, and formed what became The Land of The North Men, or Normandy...lots of money, lots of influence, lots of power).
Even the English language has Germanic roots to it, although it is also heavily influenced by other languages, most notably Latin. But our 'basic' words have a Germanic base. The "old Anglo-Saxon" words, I mean. "House" (Haus), "Beer" (Bier), "Field" (Feld), "Bear" (Bare), "Hand" (Hand), and of course various swear words
Goodness, even the House of Windsor is, originally, German! George V changed the family name, derived from Prince Albert, to "Windsor" (after Windsor Castle....the family name could have just as easily have become Buckingham, I suppose....) from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, just as Mountbatten changed his from Battenberg.
Apparently, even in George V's era, the Royal Family spoke German "at home"....and George I and II, apparently, (being Hannoverian) couldn't even speak English!
Ironic....Frau Windsor is such the epitome of Terribly Terribly British!
Up to WWI, to say nothing of WWII, this German connection of the Royal Family was just accepted and not really seen as that big a deal...all the royal families of Europe mixed it up with all the others so of course there was going to be some cross-pollination....didn't want to end up like those freakish Hapsburgs, you know (and, boy, towards the end there, they were FREAKS!!! Damn spooky.....).
Of course, the British Royals were a bit limited in choice, seeing as how they couldn't marry Roman Catholics, so right there they were out of the dating and mating game with 2/3's of Europe or whatever it worked out to be....so naturally, it was German royal houses they cast a matrimonial eye to, Scandinavian, Dutch maybe but they did seem to favour German stock.
Heavens, even Queen Victoria herself was "German" and Alberta was a cousin so we get a loop of German genetics coming back into the Royal Family through Albert.
Now, with the present bunch, we got an infusion of Danish through Phillip....even though he was actually a Prince of Greece, he isn't "Greek" but "Danish". As a Danish Prince of Greece I really don't know if he was Protestant (as most Danes) or Orthodox (as most Greeks and I would think their Royal Family would reflect this -- I assume he converted to Church of England to marry Lizzie....he'd rather have to, wouldn't he?).
Even the name "England" is Germanic....Angle's Land.
It is the events of the 1930's that skewered the whole British-German connection/shared heritage thing (well, that, and that damn Cousin Billy...Kaiser Wilhelm....nut case!) and that's a shame.
Shit ! I'm back in my South Birmingham Secondary Modern school, getting board rubbers thrown at my head. Talk about a flashback ! | |
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