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Clarke 23
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Cap Badge : 1st Royal Hampshire Regt
Places Served : Sutton Coldfield,Colchester,N.I.(4 Tours),Hong Kong,Munster (Germany)
Registration date : 2011-07-27

PostSubject: Dads Photo   15/8/2011, 22:17

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Please could you look closely at the person standing at the left back. His name is Cecil Victor Clarke, we know nothing of his Army carrea only that he was not with the D Day landings. The other people we also know nothing about.
All help is gratefully recieved, Thanks
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Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   15/8/2011, 23:30

Clarke 23 wrote:
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Please could you look closely at the person standing at the left back. His name is Cecil Victor Clarke, we know nothing of his Army carrea only that he was not with the D Day landings. The other people we also know nothing about.
All help is gratefully recieved, Thanks

Now this is a funny one.

I can't make out the cap badge but it appears on the lapels of the BD jackets, now that's unusual.

Those blokes are wearing a beret, not that brown thing which became known as a "craphat".

Where did those tiny chevrons come from ? They look even smaller than the ones we had on our No 2 dress in the 70s.

Could this be a detachment of a regiment that had been independent of their parent unit for a while, after hostilities were over, and adopted their own style of uniform ?

I bet it didn't survive long after a visit from the RSM !

I'm off to see if that cap badge is in my little book.

Wait out.

Over to you, Over !
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Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 04:39

Looks like the Lothian and Border Horse (Yeomanry)

The inverted stripes look like the old service stripes.

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Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 04:52


Here's a photo of a Cpl in the Lothian and Border Horse with the collar dogs in Clarke23 photo..Len (Ciphers)



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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 07:06

The inverted stripes are good conduct badges (G Flogs)There was a thread on them awhile back.

A short history of the regiment can be found HERE
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 08:13

The guy in the photo is named as L/Cpl. Victor Cecil "Nobby" Clarke Royal Signals
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 12:15

Thanks for everyone's help, Gordon can you give me info of where you got the info on L/Cpl. Victor Cecil "Nobby" Clarke Royal Signals. Are you referring to the pic in Ciphers post?
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 13:57

First of all thanks for setting the type of challenge much enjoyed by the anoraks of this site

Couple of points
1. The Lothian and Border Horse raised two Regiments in WW2. The First was involved in the DDay Landings and the advance into Germany, subsequently becoming part of the British Army of Occupation (future BAOR)

The Second were part of the original 8th Army and remained in Italy.

Post War Reunions must have been lively affairs with the 2nd winding up the 1st by singinging lustily the D Day Dodgers song (uncensored), don't think the British 21st Army had an equivalent.

Secondly and one for the Royal Signals experts, in WW2 Did Royal Signals personnel man the rear link from Battalion/ Regimental Headquaters to Brigade, with Regimental Signallers operating the purely Regiment/Battalion nets forward to the subunits.
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 14:49



Where did those tiny chevrons come from ? They look even smaller than the ones we had on our No 2 dress in the 70s.



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Don't think they are chevrons Brum, they are either a Battle Honour or part of the Bde/Div Flash.
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Registration date : 2008-02-27

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 14:54

Brum
The wearing of collar dogs was not unusual with BD. When I was with the 8 KRIH they wore a smaller version of their cap badge as collar dogs, attached pers had to wear them as well. They tried to get us to wear the 8H as well but our corps regs only allowed one parent unit embellishment to be worn.
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 17:33

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Thanks for everyone's help, Gordon can you give me info of where you got the info on L/Cpl. Victor Cecil "Nobby" Clarke Royal Signals. Are you referring to the pic in Ciphers post?

Where you posted it "The long trail"
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Cap Badge : 1st Royal Hampshire Regt
Places Served : Sutton Coldfield,Colchester,N.I.(4 Tours),Hong Kong,Munster (Germany)
Registration date : 2011-07-27

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 17:46

I Thought so but to be excact my dad is the one standing in the picture with 4 people, who is the one in Ciphers post?
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PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 18:52

No idea. you will have to ask Len
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Age : 83
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 21:13

It is a photo I took at random from the Regimental files, just to illustrate the collar dog badge.

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Clarke 23
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Number of posts : 7
Age : 63
Cap Badge : 1st Royal Hampshire Regt
Places Served : Sutton Coldfield,Colchester,N.I.(4 Tours),Hong Kong,Munster (Germany)
Registration date : 2011-07-27

PostSubject: Re: Dads Photo   16/8/2011, 21:32

Thanks for that Len, I will have to take a look at these Regimental files
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