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Teabag
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PostSubject: Dictators   24/8/2011, 22:13

Gadaffi (sp?), Hussein, Hitler. They and probably many other overthrown dictators all vowed to fight to the death at the head of their troops. As proven, in the end they were just cowards. Has any dictator/despot ever gone down fighting?
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   24/8/2011, 23:44

Now that I think of it....no....

Napoleon died of stomach cancer in exile on the Island of St. Helena.

Ghengis Khan, while seen as a great leader amongst Mongols and, for his era, quite progressive promoting literacy and religious tolerance (relatively speaking), was nevertheless ruthless and massacred thousands of innocent civilians and certainly in the West was seen as the leader of The Mongol Horde and a major threat to Europe, allegedly died after being thrown from his horse.

Josef Stalin died of a stroke, ironically because treatment was delayed so long due to his own actions against "intellectuals" and doctors. It took him days to die an agonizing death.

Mao Tse Tung (later changed for some reason to "Zedong"...I preferred the old spelling) died from a series of complications due to Lou Gehrig's Disease, emphysema, and several strokes at the age of 82, unable to see or speak.

Hitler, as we know, blew his own brains out in his Berlin bunker as the Allies moved in to the city.

Mussolini, at least, was captured and hung in a public hanging. Lynched, if you will. Whatever.....

Idi Amin died of multiple organ failure while in exile in Saudi Arabia.

Pol Pot either died of a heart attack or was poisoned....

the list goes on.
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 10:09

Maggie? Neutral
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Teabag
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 16:06

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Maggie? Neutral

Agree she was a dictator but at the head of her troops? Those types get us plebs to do the fighting for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 17:27

Maggie....

That just wasted my day pig
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 18:11

Maggie....as in Thatcher? Yikes.....

Speaking totally as an outsider, I was not terribly taken with Thatcherite politics or economics and I think she earned her nickname The Iron Lady well but I don't know if I'd go so far as to label her a dictator. I think her style could be described as 'dicatorial' but only insofar as she came across as demanding, focused, her way or the highway, and a control freak but I'd hesitate going as far as calling her a dictator. Now, Oliver Cromwell? He was a dictator, absolutely but I have a sense to call Thatcher a dictator trivializes real dictatorships.

And, of course, having a monarch as Head of State and all, precludes any Prime Minister in UK from being a dictator. Parliamentary procedure precludes it. Whatever its faults, the British Parliamentary system and constitutional monarchy system absolutely serves as a counterbalance to powergrubbers like Thatcher.

She could only go so far (thank The Deity) and no further. Whether she would have if she could have I suppose we'll never know, but we can surmise.
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 20:57

Shelldrake wrote:
Maggie? Neutral

Well done Shelldrake, you got the Teabag out of his lair !

It didn't take him long for him to strap on the old sussie belt and start thrashing the camera !

Imagine, on the Eve of D-Day.

Maggie, addressing the troops.

"I want you to go in there and give the Hun a damn good handbagging !"


God, she'd have made short work of that psychopath, Patton !
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 21:19

Ha Rolling Eyes ha! Haven't mentioned Cameron or Osborne yet! Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 21:40

brum wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
Maggie? Neutral

Well done Shelldrake, you got the Teabag out of his lair !

It didn't take him long for him to strap on the old sussie belt and start thrashing the camera !

Imagine, on the Eve of D-Day.

Maggie, addressing the troops.

"I want you to go in there and give the Hun a damn good handbagging !"


God, she'd have made short work of that psychopath, Patton !

Yeh, good at leading from the back her sort. Is she dead yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 21:46

No, she just looks it! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 21:58

Teabag wrote:
Gadaffi (sp?), Hussein, Hitler. They and probably many other overthrown dictators all vowed to fight to the death at the head of their troops. As proven, in the end they were just cowards. Has any dictator/despot ever gone down fighting?

i dont know if this quallifys, but MUSSOLINI kicked all the way to the lamp post they hung him from.
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PostSubject: Re: Dictators   25/8/2011, 23:36

dandc wrote:
Teabag wrote:
Gadaffi (sp?), Hussein, Hitler. They and probably many other overthrown dictators all vowed to fight to the death at the head of their troops. As proven, in the end they were just cowards. Has any dictator/despot ever gone down fighting?

i dont know if this quallifys, but MUSSOLINI kicked all the way to the lamp post they hung him from.

Ah but the partisans caught him trying to escape in disguise. Another one who didn't go charging to his death with a gun/bayonet/catapult or whatever in his hands at the head of his troops. Talk a good fight don't they?
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