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 Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting

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Number of posts : 265
Age : 88
Localisation : North Huron Township, ON,Canada
Cap Badge : Royal Canadian Artillery
Places Served : CFB Valcartier, CFB Borden, AFVR Meaford, Ipperwash, CAN; Hannover, Putlos; 21 Fd Regt RCA(M)
Registration date : 2011-07-09

PostSubject: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   3/2/2012, 18:57

Baor(27CIB) surfers,
Installment No 26, No.79 Field Ambulance RCAMC
No. 2 Medical Liaison Detachment RCAMC
No. 27 Field Dental Detachment R.C.D.C.
The following main sources were used to support the research for this summary;
1. Report No. 51 Historical Section(GS) Army Headquarters, Directorate of History
National Defense Headquarters, Ottawa, Canada, K1A 0K2
2. News Bulletin of the Medical Services Canadian Armed Forces, Vol 67, Dec 1952.
3. News of the Canadian Medical Association, Annual Meeting, Banff in 1951.
Historical Report No. 51
4. The Baor History Forum
Page 7, para 16, ''RCAMC - to form No. 27 Field Ambulance* and Replacements:
No.7 Field Ambulance, Toronto, Ont.
No.9 Field Ambulance, Montreal, P.Q.
* Redesignated No. 79 Field Ambulance with effect 6 Sep 51
Page 9, Para 25(a) ''designated a ''Battle Unit''
'' No. 79 Field Ambulance, RCAMC''
Para 25(b) ''designated a ''Support Unit''
'' No. 27 Field Dental Detachment''
Page10,Para 25(c) ''designated a ''base unit''
''No.2 Medical Liaison Detachment''
The Canadian Medical Association, Annual Meeting Banff, 1951, News of the Medical Services stated,''The medical component of the 27th Canadian Infantry Brigade, the 79 Field Ambulance RCAMC, proceeded to Europe in Dec under command of Lieut Col R,D. Barron, MC, RCAMC'' and a News Bulletin from the Medical Services Canadian Armed Forces, Vol 67, Dec 1952 stated,'' Lt. Col. R.D. Barron, MC has returned to Canada after serving a tour of duty in Germany. Lt. Col. P.A. Costin has been appointed Officer Commanding 79th Field Ambulance RCAMC, Germany.'' No. 79 Field Ambulance was based at the BMH at Iserlohn, a former base of a panzer unit at Argonne Barracks which subsequently became No. 6 British General Hospital in 1946.
The Baor Forum states,''When the Canadian Brigade was in the area (1950 to 1970) they utilized the the hospital and between 1951 and 1971 the facilities were shared by British and Canadian Forces''.
Historical Report No. 51
Page 13, Para 35, ''Mr Claxton informed the House of Commons that No. 410 Squadron of the RCAF, and others to follow later, would be based at North Luffenham airfields in the English Midlands pending the provision of other accommodation in Western Europe.'' Further to this, the Royal Canadian Dental Corps Association reported, ''that 27 Canadian Field Dental detachment was stood up to support the Canadian Brigade in Europe that was Canada's contribution to NATO following WWII. In another report from the Dental Association,'' A Century of Service''(Part Five).
'' During the Cold War in Europe from 1951 to 1953 Canada established two dental organizations as part of the NATO forces. One was based in several areas in Northern Germany and another was formed to support the RCAF in England and Europe.'' As well the National Defense and Canadian Forces reported a ''dental detachment also accompanied the new No. 1 Fighter Wing RCAF at North Luffenham, England in Nov 1951. This detachment was later amalgamated into 35 Dental Unit''
Shown below are the badges of the RCAMC and RCDC which were in effect during the period 1951 and later:

Next installment 27th CIB Signal Squadron, R.C. Sigs
79th Field Regiment Signal Troop, R.C. Sigs
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Number of posts : 773
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Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   4/2/2012, 08:02

Thanks Bob
Will add 79 Field Ambulance to my Iserlohn blog that is a bit out of date as busy earning a living but will get to it soon update for your notes
6th British General Hospital RAMC – Oestacker near Ghent Belgium to Argonne Barracks Iserlohn Jun 45 converted to a hospital by 92 Army Troops Coy RE re-designated 6th British Military Hospital Jan 47 then BMH Iserlohn 1951
All the best
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Number of posts : 265
Age : 88
Localisation : North Huron Township, ON,Canada
Cap Badge : Royal Canadian Artillery
Places Served : CFB Valcartier, CFB Borden, AFVR Meaford, Ipperwash, CAN; Hannover, Putlos; 21 Fd Regt RCA(M)
Registration date : 2011-07-09

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 03:05

Steve,
Thanks for your response to my post on the RCAMC and RCDC as well as your further details on the evolution of the BMH at Iserlohn. Your hyperlink had a wealth of information which would not be found here.
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BobR
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Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 14:55

ritter wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for your response to my post on the RCAMC and RCDC as well as your further details on the evolution of the BMH at Iserlohn. Your hyperlink had a wealth of information which would not be found here.
Regards
BobR

Thanks Bob
The Iserlohn research was started before I joined the BAOR Locations team...myself and JPW are working together to get those early days of BAOR very well recorded...not an easy task and will take sometime and can only work on the project part time as still working full time...hoping to have similar detail for each garrison in Germany in the future...watch his space for Lüneburg home of HQ 30 Corps District 45/46 and JPW is well into Plön home of HQ 8 Corps District 45/46
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Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 18:51

Bob

An intriguing contribution

Unlike the Norwegians and the British Para Brigade who were previously in the Hannover area the Canadian Medics do not appear to have had any presence in the local BMH Hannover but were sent direct to the future longterm focus of the Canadian Brigade in the Soest area.

Would be interesting to know why

As an aside the then RAF North Luffenham (mid way between Leicester and Peterborough) is now under Army control, renamed St George's Barracks, and is now home to 16 Air Defence Regiment RA, who Shelldrake and other Gunner contributors to this site will doubtless confirm, were ejected a couple of years ago from the Gunners London bastion of Woolwich
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Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 20:07

JPW wrote:
Bob


now home to 16 Air Defence Regiment RA, who Shelldrake and other Gunner contributors to this site will doubtless confirm, were ejected a couple of years ago from the Gunners London bastion of Woolwich

Ejected JPW ?

I say old chap, that sounds a trifle harsh.

They were hardly Pikeys squatting in the old depot.

What ? No
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PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 20:21

Brum

How else would you describe the Royal Regiment's enforced departure from their home of centuries in order that an Infantry Regiment could move in?
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Registration date : 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   5/2/2012, 20:32

JPW wrote:
Brum

How else would you describe the Royal Regiment's enforced departure from their home of centuries in order that an Infantry Regiment could move in?

Most irregular Sir, MOST irregular !

Actually, the quickest way to move a regiment of guns is to shout "Cease Firing"

(or perhaps "End of exercise !").
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Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

PostSubject: Re: Baor(27CIB) RCAMC & RCDC Posting   6/2/2012, 17:29

It is my opinion that there was some skulduggery involved in the "Expulsion" of the Royal Regiment of Artillery from their home, possibly a deal was done at the very top. We are now ensconced at Larkhill and very happy to be there.
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