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"john boy"
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PostSubject: school days   6/2/2012, 18:53



I hated school
who can remember those third pint bottles of milk ........ they were always warm the bottles were dirty...and you were made to drink it yuk Then there was the cane six of the best ... didn't do you any harm they said er... it bloody hurt !!! then there was games, believe it or not I have only play football once in my life why one day on the pitch school I was on the wing running up and down shouting for the ball ... not so much as a kick for 25 min in the end I just walked off the pitch much to the anger the PE teacher asked why I walked off I told him "get to the headmasters " he screamed . Well if I'm in for a canning make it worth while "F off you W***** " I replied 6 of the best I got but I never play football again I wonder why!!I hated school lol!
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   6/2/2012, 19:18

I loved school, warm radiators, as far as sport went, the games teacher sent a letter to my mother written in red or green, this she counted as an insult, sport was never mentioned again (the letter was all about me having the correct sports kit, I know rationing was almost over but the biggest ration my mother had (as a widow) was money) as for the milk, I used to manage 2 or 3 of those, a school friend of mine was the milkman's son, later around 57/58 he brought in some straws, they had like a felt piece in the end that made the milk different flavours Rolling Eyes
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gingerjim
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PostSubject: Re: school days   6/2/2012, 19:40

school during the war years was not very nice . i went to a catholic junior school run by nuns and a blinking drunken irish headmaster , believe me these nuns must have been instructors for the ss and gestapo , they would certainly have made excellent guards for hitlers death camps , they really did beat us kids , and i dont mean just a tap . they wore heavy leather boots similat to army boots , they were all very skilled at kicking us kids in the shins ,it did narf hurt , i dont know about them being married to god , they certainly were married to the devil , evil bloody cows they were , every time we were caned by the drunken paddy he had a couple of swigs of jamesions before letting loose with the stick , if we missed mass on a sunday it was cpl punishment. if we missed a sunday procession it was suicidal , the most miserable time of my life was that catholic school , even living through the blitz was not as bad , just imagine today . 50 snotty nosed kids with all sorts of ailments queueing up for a spoonful of malt , all using the same spoon . snotty noses and all ,what would health and safety made of that little lot ,ginger
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   6/2/2012, 19:47

Well I don't know about the catholic schools as I went to local C of E but even then as a 5/6yr old I would still have to be careful, the teachers were not opposed to using the edge of the ruler, as for Health and Safety there just wasn't any, as we always say compared with today it's a wonder any of us are alive, no sell by date, no five a day what a terrible life Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: school days   6/2/2012, 23:31

And we are still living..... Laughing
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Shelldrake
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 07:57

Didn't really take much interest when I went to Secondary School, couldn't wait to get out and make my way in the world. The first qualification I got was my ACE III. study

And now look at me, I'm a Let Gen! cheers cheers
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brum
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 11:21

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I hated school
who can remember those third pint bottles of milk ........ they were always warm the bottles were dirty...and you were made to drink it yuk Then there was the cane six of the best ... didn't do you any harm they said er... it bloody hurt !!! then there was games, believe it or not I have only play football once in my life why one day on the pitch school I was on the wing running up and down shouting for the ball ... not so much as a kick for 25 min in the end I just walked off the pitch much to the anger the PE teacher asked why I walked off I told him "get to the headmasters " he screamed . Well if I'm in for a canning make it worth while "F off you W***** " I replied 6 of the best I got but I never play football again I wonder why!!I hated school lol!

I agree with you John. I also hated school. I think we had somewhat more spontaneous physical violence inflicted on us than your age group though.

What surprises me though is that, given our age difference, schools had not improved.

Certainly, nowadays, if teachers treated children the way we were treated, they would go to jail.
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Daveb
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 12:13

I can say in all honesty that I never encountered a bad teacher all the way though my R.C junior school to secondary at eleven then to a secondary technical college. then however I went to a Technical College at 15, but the Electronics course I was supposed to go on was for 16 year old's so they put me on a Motor Vehicle course "just for the year", when the time came to transfer to the Electronics course the county council's education department decided that as I was top of the MV course I should stay on it. Result was I didn't go again and they chucked me out. Nobody listened to Kids back then, everybody else knew what was best for you.
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 16:00

You were there to be seen and not heard....As was told to me on numerous occasions
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brum
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 17:19

[quote="Shelldrake"]Didn't really take much interest when I went to Secondary School, couldn't wait to get out and make my way in the world. The first qualification I got was my ACE III. study

Good point .

Joining up as a Junior Leader meant, virtually, going back to school.

In my case it helped a lot, 'specially with my maths.
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 17:25


One of our resident Scots might be able to help with this.

When I was in Boys, there was a Jock there who was only 15 and it was said that (in those days), kids left school at the age of 14 in Scotland.

True or false ?
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jimsigs1
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 17:52

My problem during my school days was the number of schools I went to owing us moving around the country. Bombed out of our school in 1940, then we moved to Reading where i attended a temp school for London kids. Then to a Reading school where there were always fights between Londoners and the Reading kids. 1944 off to Noerh Wales (bloody awful school). Then Cheltenham - St Pauls Practising School (next to the College), great school. The Loughton in Essex - hated that school and finally my last school in London. So I had the problem of non continuity, differing levels od education and some rotton teachers etc.

First time I started to learn anything was at Harrogate.
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Shelldrake
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 17:57

brum wrote:

One of our resident Scots might be able to help with this.

When I was in Boys, there was a Jock there who was only 15 and it was said that (in those days), kids left school at the age of 14 in Scotland.

True or false ?


Brum, according to Herr Google, the school leaving age was raised from 14 to 15 in 1944. When I was at Troon there were a few lads who were 15, albeit a couple of months short of their 16th.
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 18:00

Yes Jimsigs, although I loved school, apart from Maths I didn't learn much, worked in a firm called Simm's Motor Units for a while when I left school, Manager was Ex REME, he advised me to go in the Army, everything got better from there bounce bounce

Les
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jimsigs1
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 18:22

Hi Les,

Simm's Motor Units - would that be Frederick Richard Simms founded the Royal Automobile Clum & the Society of Motor manufacturers & Traders I wonder ?
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 18:32

Very possibly would Jimsigs, I do know at tat time my jobs were repairing dynamos starter motors and regrinding and testing diesel injectors, just can't remember the name of the Manager Sleep Smile
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jimsigs1
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 18:46

Read all about him Les at :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Richard_Simms
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 19:02

Very interesting, I didn't know they had sold to Lucas, that must have only been 3yrs after I left, still I'm glad I worked there, it started me on my career both in the Army and cosequently on to college and Electronics rabbit

Les
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steve
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 19:07

Shelldrake wrote:
brum wrote:

One of our resident Scots might be able to help with this.

When I was in Boys, there was a Jock there who was only 15 and it was said that (in those days), kids left school at the age of 14 in Scotland.

True or false ?

Brum, according to Herr Google, the school leaving age was raised from 14 to 15 in 1944. When I was at Troon there were a few lads who were 15, albeit a couple of months short of their 16th.

Joined the Junior Leaders Regiment Royal Signals at 15 and a half but there were younger ones in the Sep 64 intake and were output Apr 67…I graduated Dec 66…your output term was the term you reached 17 and a half therefore on man service pay…however some Junior Leaders did an extra term to do extra trade or education so were 18 on graduation…also some J/Sgts and J/SSMs were also asked to stay on…looking back a couple of years there were recruits from Ireland and Channel Islands who joined at just under 14 years
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gingerjim
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 19:52

les you said no 5 a day.was that woodbines you were talking about , ginger
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 20:31

He certainly wasn't talking about 'have you had your five for today' You know, these healthy food types etc
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Les Pattenden
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 20:37

gingerjim

No my friend, I just think about one of my grand children quoting at me "you should always make sure of your 5 a day Grand Dad" I would normally think in terms of ciggies but I'm sure she meant food (she is too young to think about how I have survived till now)

Les
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 20:54

Les,

I thought that was the case - 'hsave you had your five a day' 'cause if it was ciggys, then it would be ' I'm a 20 a day man'
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 20:59

Jimsigs

Like most of us I used to smoke a tremendous amount, these days I roll my own and days vary a lot sometimes 5 sometimes 10 very rarely more, but I do still enjoy lol!
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PostSubject: Re: school days   7/2/2012, 21:15

I gave up the smokes some 30 years ago quite by accident. I had a very bad bout of 'flu then and never really started again when I got well. It's just as wel as in later life I developed asthma, although not had an attack for years.

Anyway, I used to smoke around 15 - 20 a day and finished up with Consulate which were pretty similar to the 'Kool' I smoked in Korea.
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