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Number of posts : 734
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime17/2/2012, 17:37

Can any member identify this badge?

It is bigger much than those one often sees listed as a Pouch Badge, and of course I don't presume it was worn on a hat due to its size!

It appears to have had two fixing points on the reverse. One in the middle of the wheel and one where the chassis meets the ground.

Not sure what it is made of? It appears to be pressed thin brassr plate with a light coating silver finish on the front.



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Number of posts : 978
Age : 90
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime17/2/2012, 19:04

Could it be a foot locker plate ... lots of units had something similar, there was a Royal Signals one on here sometime back.

Len (Ciphers)
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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 10:54


They look like the sort of thing you'd find on something like a dedicatory plaque, perhaps on a memorial or in a church.

(Or on the sleeve of a very large sergeant !).
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Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 15:19

I am not sure that it is a RA Badge, the Barrel is too long, there are too many spokes in the wheel and the Trail is at the wrong angle - could it be American? Suspect What's the history, Alan?
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Number of posts : 169
Age : 78
Cap Badge : RA
Places Served : Pembroke Dock, Lippstadt,Plymouth, Middle east, Singapore
Registration date : 2011-07-15

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 15:46

Sgts and S/sgts wore the brass gun above the chevrons in the old BD days. Are these from those times Firepower museum may know


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Number of posts : 734
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 17:24

Shelldrake,

Sorry, there is no previous history! You are correct about the wheel spokes. It is possible that the badge is much older than I anticipate.

The Pouch Badge is shown below. Also to Too big to wear on a sleeve. This is what I have seen depicted mostly on web sites.


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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 20:25

Shelldrake wrote:
I am not sure that it is a RA Badge, the Barrel is too long, there are too many spokes in the wheel and the Trail is at the wrong angle - could it be American? Suspect What's the history, Alan?

I put the angle of the trail down to the poor quality of the manufacture. (You should see my blazer badge for example !).

The wheel spokes ? When I was a real Old Sweat I had a cap badge upon which the wheel rotated, (WOW !). Hence the many spokes in the picture.

In conclusion, shame on you SHELLDRAKE, I think it's Barnes Wallis's cap badge.

Over to you, over ! Very Happy
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Let Gen
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Number of posts : 1070
Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook)
Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places
Registration date : 2007-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 20:56

Possibly worn on a Shako or Busby way back in the day when those were standard head dress?
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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 89
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 22:11

Saw this on ebay today. It says it is an 18 pounder in cast bronze



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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 22:56

The sleeve of a RA Sgt Farrier...Is that your pea shooter at the top

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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 83
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 23:08

Gordon. wrote:
The sleeve of a RA Sgt Farrier...Is that your pea shooter at the top

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To paraphrase Churchill. . . some shooter... some pea !
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime18/2/2012, 23:24

Thought Barnes Wallis said that.... Laughing Laughing


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Number of posts : 1298
Age : 89
Localisation : West of England
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Harrogate 1949-52. HQ BAOR Sig Regt 1952-54, Korea 1954-55, Egypt 1955, Cyprus 1955-57, HMS Santon 1957, UK 7th Hussars 1957-59, 1st Gds Bde 1959-60, 201 Signal Sqn 1960-62, 206 Sig Sqn 1962-63, 7 Sig Regt 1963-66, 249 Sig Sqn 1966-68, 11 Sig Regt 1968-72. Retired 1972
Registration date : 2010-02-22

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime19/2/2012, 00:02

No Gordon, Barnes Wallis said BLAST & DAMM it
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Shelldrake
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Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime19/2/2012, 07:52

Gordon. wrote:
Thought Barnes Wallis said that.... Laughing Laughing



No, that was my old Battery Commander Maj Frank Whittle!
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 734
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime19/2/2012, 08:30

I think the Farrier badge is the same as the second one I posted, but a bit smaller, I think!
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime19/2/2012, 08:59

That`s what i thought Alan
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Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime19/2/2012, 13:29

It could well be something that was produced by Soldiers in the trenches during WW1, they were renowned for manufacturing lighters from empty cartridge cases and tobacco tins from boot polish containers etc?
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Maj Gen



Number of posts : 784
Age : 93
Localisation : s. yorks
Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR)
Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands.
Registration date : 2011-04-26

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime3/7/2012, 17:11

Just found this one........ don't know how I missed it, but my sixpennorth.....

I reckon it must be Genuine, if not isssue then something turned out by an approved supplier....,..... Much too good for trench art, although I know there were some very professional things turned out. Wheels seem OK.... Everything I have, or had, has 12 spokes and so does this if you look carefully. It's confusing that the wheel behind is shown too.... the spokes on that could be mistaken for extras on the near side wheel. All the other bits, ram rod, trail, ropes, etc. seem to be right even if angles & proportions could be a bit out.

What is it ? Dunno, haven't a clue. Indian Army maybe ?. Have a go with the RA Museum, I bet they'll have some idea about what it is.

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Number of posts : 784
Age : 93
Localisation : s. yorks
Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR)
Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands.
Registration date : 2011-04-26

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime4/7/2012, 10:05

Shelldrake wrote:
It could well be something that was produced manufacturing lighters from empty cartridge cases and tobacco tins from boot polish containers etc?

Touch of hilarity as the net seems to have gone PUFFO at this moment.......
Reminiscent of WW2 joke........... VIP visiting aircraft factory asks bench hand "How many fighters have you produced today?" "!5 !" says worker. "15 fighters? Bloody marvellous !" says VIP. "Fighters? Sorry thought you said lighters " says worker.
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Number of posts : 296
Age : 66
Localisation : Worksop, Notts
Cap Badge : R.E.M.E
Places Served : Fallingbostal, NI, Hohne, Fallingbostal, again.
Registration date : 2012-03-30

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime5/7/2012, 16:44

jimsigs1 wrote:
No Gordon, Barnes Wallis said BLAST & DAMM it



I thought it was `DAM & BLAST IT`.
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Number of posts : 3
Age : 62
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : woolwich,NI X2, Germany, Cyprus, Larkhill, left the army in june 2000
Registration date : 2018-11-10

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Artillery Badge   Royal Artillery Badge Icon_minitime10/11/2018, 22:45

alan8376 wrote:
Can any member identify this badge?

It is bigger much than those one often sees listed as a Pouch Badge, and of course I don't presume it was worn on a hat due to its size!

It  appears to have had two fixing points on the reverse. One in the middle of the wheel and one where the chassis meets the ground.

Not sure what it is made of? It appears to be pressed thin brassr plate with a light coating silver finish on the front.



Royal Artillery Badge IMG_8103

Royal Artillery Badge IMG_3743

Thanks
Alan
it looks like a very very early Royal artillery badge from around the 1800s


Last edited by Tonyp11 on 10/11/2018, 22:50; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : i said a badge when i meant to say a model copy of the badge that we all come to know but this looks like its either a foot scraper or a door wedge)
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