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cobris
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Places Served : AAC CHEPSTOW 70-72 23 Engr Regt/2 ADER Wksps 73-79. 39 Engr Regt Wksps 79-82. 3 Arm Fld Amb LAD 82-85. 36 Engr Regt Wksps 85-87.
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   28/10/2012, 12:52

I got my LS&GC off the postman
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Age : 76
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
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Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   28/10/2012, 12:57

cobris wrote:
I got my LS&GC off the postman

What, like you mugged him ? Shocked
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Registration date : 2010-10-26

PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   28/10/2012, 13:43

cobris wrote:
I got my LS&GC off the postman




I think the Postman got mine. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   29/10/2012, 07:25

Probably more deserving of it. sniff
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   29/10/2012, 13:00

I take it then that long service will be dropped nowadays as the MOD are kicking people out as quickly as they are joining up.You don't get people joining up nowadays for twenty two years or more.More like the average six years.
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   3/11/2012, 17:27

Shelldrake wrote:
cobris wrote:
I got my LS&GC off the postman




I think the Postman got mine. Rolling Eyes
yes BB he may well have, you certainly knew you're way round that little house at the gate of Churchill camp LOL


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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   3/11/2012, 22:53

What`s this Dee Z ?..Do you have some dirt to spread about our illustrious general??

If so feel free to spread...The drinks are on Brum..
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   4/11/2012, 07:44

All trumped up charges, I am expecting an apology from Gen Richards and the Secretary of State for Defence, soon. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   4/11/2012, 09:39

Gen Richards was at the 29 50th bash in Plymouth he was ex 7 Bty and I think CO of 7 RHA. As to your medal Sheldrake you may get one on ebay.
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   4/11/2012, 12:02

Dee Z wrote:
Gen Richards was at the 29 50th bash in Plymouth he was ex 7 Bty and I think CO of 7 RHA. As to your medal Sheldrake you may get one on ebay.

When were you with 29, Dee Z ?
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   4/11/2012, 12:29

1972 Brum
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   4/11/2012, 14:11

Dee Z wrote:
1972 Brum

Just checking mate.
My brother-in-law was 29 but before your time.
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   7/11/2012, 18:00

When did they lower the years served to fifteen years for an award of the LSGC or LS medal as I believe it is called now.........I think.I believe it was twenty two years unblemished record to get it or that you managed to steer clear of trouble or were never caught. No No
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   7/11/2012, 19:59

rucjock, the qualifying period was 18 years undetected (or detected , with a plea of mitigation, eg "A big boy did it and ran away) crime, since Lcpl Jones was a Private. It was reduced, for some unknown reason, to 15 years around the mid to late '70s. I think that there was also a financial award at one time, on completion of 22 years, not sure how much probably a Guinea or a Groat.
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   7/11/2012, 22:31

It was 15 years in the 60s
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   7/11/2012, 23:16

I don't know about all the former but, in the mid 70s, our Tara asked me if I'd put in for my Rooti Gong, to which I replied "SIR, NO SIR !"
Having heard my reply, and commenting that he did not know that you could stack shit five feet ten inches high, he informed me that one could now get the medal after 18 years, not the 22yrs that was previously the rule.

"15 years in the 60s" ? Not to my knowledge.

SIR !
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 07:12

Perhaps i am wrong.....AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 07:25

Yes.I was wrong.

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The medal was originally awarded to soldiers of good conduct who had completed 21 years service in the infantry or 24 years in the cavalry. In 1870, this qualifying period was reduced to 18 years for both the infantry and cavalry.


Today, the Long Service & Good Conduct Medal (Army) is awarded to members of the British Army who have completed 15 years of reckonable service


Before 1 December 1977 18 years of service was required for consideration for the LS&GCM (Army).
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 07:27

Gordon. wrote:
Yes.I was wrong.

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The medal was originally awarded to soldiers of good conduct who had completed 21 years service in the infantry or 24 years in the cavalry. In 1870, this qualifying period was reduced to 18 years for both the infantry and cavalry.


Today, the Long Service & Good Conduct Medal (Army) is awarded to members of the British Army who have completed 15 years of reckonable service


Before 1 December 1977 18 years of service was required for consideration for the LS&GCM (Army).


Pretty much fits in with what I said! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


(You didn't believe me when I said that Barnes Wallis served with the Gunners)
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BobG
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Age : 78
Localisation : Northumberland
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Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can.
Registration date : 2008-02-27

PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 16:27

I got mine in 73 - 18 years including boys service, I believe it is the only award where boys service counts.

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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 16:39

Bob..boy`s service does not count towards the LS&GC medal.but strangly enough it does count towards good conduct badges.The starting age for LS&GC is 17.5 yrs.

I got my G flog after 2.5 yrs at Harrogate,got my 2nd 2.5 yrs after that but not allowed to wear it as i was a full screw by then
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 16:47

Left boys service in 1957 got LS&GC in 1973, either the qualifying period had changed or boys service counted. Qualifying service is from date of attestation or 17.5 years old which ever is the later, in my case date of attestation was 1954. Question Question
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   8/11/2012, 20:06

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Qualifying service is from date of attestation or 17.5 years old which ever is the later,

Looks likes 17.5 is the later.Which means you got yours at 35.5yrs which is around 1973 by my calculations and does not include boys service.
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Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
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PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   9/11/2012, 07:13

Like the Pension, Boys Service does not count towards the LS&GC. I was eligible for mine in Dec 78 but it was lost in the Post. Suspect
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Registration date : 2008-02-27

PostSubject: Re: LS&GC   9/11/2012, 14:20

The time has come to grovel and offer my humble apologises, I should know better than to query what my superiors have said. Had I bothered to check my copy of Army Form B6987, Statement of Army Service, and not rely on my memory - dangerous at our age, I would have seen that I got the LS&GC in 1974 after 18 Years service from age 17.5. At the tender age of 17.5 I was still in Boys service and would continue as such for a further 15 months so that period of boys service counted towards earning the medal. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

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