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Localisation: Sandbach Cheshire
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Places Served: JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date: 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   1/11/2013, 20:41

That's an amazing collection of mil hardware, makes our local transport festival look miniscule !

I got quite nostalgic, listening to that K60 engine wailing away in the background.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   19/11/2013, 21:46

I didn't join until 1976 but there were still a few of these knocking around. We had an RL as FAMTO waggon at 1ADOC (Soltau) being a petrol engine it was faster than the MK's and there was space under the passengers seat where you could fit two yellow handbags quite snugly.




For those who may not know... the yellow handbag:


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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 04:58

i was doing driver training in chilwell 1956 they had just started changing the rl for the old type 3 ton bedford , i much prefered the old 3 tonner to the rl ,
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 06:31

Nice to see the old RL again.
We were in Hohne, early '71. Waiting for the wagon to pick us up in Bergen, one morning, we noticed that the thermometer, on the wall of the chemist, read -25.
Eventually the duty truck turned up, (an RL), very late and the driver explained that he'd had to go around, bump starting the squadron MKs. It was too cold for them to start.
It was a good wagon, the RL, but I preferred the MK, it was more comfortable.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 20:35

I seem to remember when on exercise in the winter we would use an eager beaver to 'slave' the knockers, winter excercises would have ground to a halt without a beaver with a slave lead. Knockers would never start below freezing but once fired up they would go anywhere... albeit slowly. We were using them right up until the end of the 1980's and although some people tend to look back to the knocker fondly, I much prefered it's replacement. The TM may not have been quite as robust (Squaddyproof) as the knocker but it was a damned sight more comfortable and unlike the knocker it came in left hand drive.

   
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 20:40

[quote="Wilf"] We had an RL as FAMTO waggon

"FAMTO", blimey, that's one I'd forgotten !
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 21:16

gingerjim wrote:
i was doing driver training in chilwell 1956 they had just started changing the rl ..........
Time sounds about right........ I drove my first RL in Spring of '56 and that might have been when 16 LAA moved back to UK. RLs were still going strong in TA up to late, late 1970s. What happened to I-tonners ? Did nothing replace the Austin, which became one of my favourites........? . Tan leathercloth inside the cab was almost like a car. No heater then, but no draughts either. And you could kip laying across the front seats whilst the two others of an OP were happy to spread out in the back.

The Fordson E4 was one many might not have come across....... purely a LAA tractor, I think, and could have been replaced when
L 70s came in instead of the Bristol Bofors around the late '50s to early 1960s. Another comfortable, draughtproof truck with a 3.9 litre V8..........but not much use for towing.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 21:25

[quote="cartav  What happened to I-tonners ?  Did nothing replace the Austin, which became one of my favourites........? .
[/quote]I hadn't really thought about that before but I imagine the Long Wheelbase Rover moved into the 1 tonner's role.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   20/11/2013, 22:15

brum wrote:
Wilf wrote:
We had an RL as FAMTO waggon

"FAMTO", blimey, that's one I'd forgotten !


At least you could have a decent kip in the MK. FAACO and FATSO, any more for any more?
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   21/11/2013, 01:03

Tbh, I reckon you would have to be a very tired contortionist to get to sleep in the cab of an MK. You had to put it in first gear and try to ignore the cupola footplate between the seats that your arse was resting on. The best place to kip in the winter was the passenger seat of a knocker. Push the back of the seat forward so it's flat, drop your large pack & webbing in the footwell, roll out your doss bag and sleep full stretch, after a week of living in a hole in the woods it was like the presidential suite at the London Hilton. In the summer just roll out your doss bag on top of the canvas, you sink between the superstructure just enough to avoid rolling off in your sleep...of course if you did roll off, it was quite a drop!
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   21/11/2013, 02:42

brum wrote:
[quote="cartav  What happened to I-tonners ?  Did nothing replace the Austin, which became one of my favourites........? .
I hadn't really thought about that before but I imagine the Long Wheelbase Rover moved into the 1 tonner's role.[/quote]

And I'd not thought what the role of our 1-tonners was ! For sure BHQ Tp had one as OP transport when a Champ & trailer was more useful for shifting an NCO, a Sig & a dvr. With no plumbed-in radio lads in a 1-tonner, deployed up to 2. 1/2 miles from BHQ, could have a problem if there was a mechanical breakdown. Gun tps whose Bofors moved into position individually could be over a mile from each other. Each detachment was put in position by a 'coverer', one of the gun crews' reps. who had tagged along in a 1-tonner when the Tp. Cdr did his recce.

So our 1-tonners' roles were more or less ones of shifting 8 or so bodies from A to B, something they did back in camp for anyone with a distant quarter....... ( no squaddies' cars in the dismal '50s ! ).
I guess the LWB Landrover could have done the same job and there were minibuses around for some tasks. And thinking about it, there was the Humber FV 1600, but the only one I came across was much too posh inside for a mundane taxi job.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   21/11/2013, 04:03

In my Medium regt days the 1ton Austin was a bit of a Jack of all trades. The line crew had one, the BCs OP party had one, they were just a handy size, I suppose.
In '64 I was posted to the air portable 2nd Light Regt, equipped with the Italian 105mm Pack Howitzer, in Colchester. Having left a Missile regt, I was amazed to see that the guns were "portee'd" in pairs, on a Bedford RL and the command post was jammed into the back of a LWB Rover.
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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   21/11/2013, 23:30

brum wrote:
In my Medium regt days the 1ton Austin was a bit of a Jack of all trades. The line crew had one, the BCs OP party had one, they were just a handy size, I suppose.
In '64 I was posted to the air portable 2nd Light Regt, equipped with the Italian 105mm Pack Howitzer, in Colchester. Having left a Missile regt, I was amazed to see that the guns were "portee'd" in pairs, on a Bedford RL and the command post was jammed into the back of a LWB Rover.


I was posted to 47 Regt, Colchester in 1976, coincidentally from a Msl Regt, they were equipped with the Pack How (Same ones!!). Early in 1977 we were the first Regiment to receive the "New Light Gun", as it was originally called. The prime mover was the Land Rover 1 Tonne 101 Series, each Gun Sub was issued with two, one with winch, to tow the gun and accommodate the equipment (Limber) and one to accommodate the crew. They were used during the Firemens strike and were escorted to the fire by a Police panda car, as the 1 Tonnes were capable of speeds nearing 100 mph, the Police substituted the pandas for motorway patrol vehs.


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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   22/11/2013, 19:34

Not familiar with this 1950;s vehicle

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PostSubject: Re: Army Vehicles - 1960s   22/11/2013, 20:37

[quote="Dee Z"]Not familiar with this 1950;s vehicle


Humber FV 1600 1- tonner.
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