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PostSubject: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime5/11/2013, 15:54

Hi I can't find any reference to the Guards Depot (particlularly Irish Guards) being in Wuppertal around 1950- 1953 (I was born in BMH Wuppertal in 1951- now Bethesda Hospital). Does anyone know which barracks they were in and where the married quarters would have been?
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime5/11/2013, 16:49

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There are other experts who have a better knowledge of Wuppetal than I but I believe that in 1951 4 Guards Brigade was in the Dusseldorf area. Brigade Headquarters and one Battalion were in Hubelrath on eastern outskirts of Dusseldorf, a second Battalion was in across the River Rhine in Krefeld, the third in Wuppetal together with the BMH.

The Irish Guards were in Hubbelrath, the Welsh Guards in Wuppetal.

We also have contributors who drop in from time to time who know the Dusseldorf area better than I (I was based in the Barracks next to the Airport in the mid 1970s, the German Army were using the ex Guards Barracks by then though there were still some Married Quarters still in use by the British Army in nearby Ratingen)
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime5/11/2013, 18:06

Welcome mpbyrne

Further to JPW...6th Infantry Brigade Group HQ moved to Bangor Barracks Wuppertal from York Barracks Munster Dec 51 so the 1st Battalion Welsh Guards command 4th Guards Brigade Group HQ Llanelly Barracks Hubblerath will have moved out and the area taken up by their units...1st Battalion Irish Guards are recorded Feb 51 to Mar 53 in Llanelly Barracks Hubblerath...not possible to make changes to the website as it being rebuilt
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime6/11/2013, 19:53

I seem to remember going to a farewell dance for one of the Guards battalions at Hubelrath
in july/aug 1954 - I've an idea it was the Coldstreams but I could be wrong - and come to think of it, it could also have been at Krefeld!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime6/11/2013, 20:14

Cliffo

One of my pretty reliable sources shows 2nd Battalion Coldstream Guards as being stationed in Bradbury Barracks Krefeld from November 1952 to November 1955.

Same source shows the Irish Guards leaving Hubbelrath in June 1953 and being replaced by 2nd Battalion Scots Guards
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime20/11/2021, 23:57

Wuppertal Barracks various and a few dates/units - German source:

https://second.wiki/wiki/wuppertaler_kasernen
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PostSubject: Re: Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal   Guards Depot in 1951 Wuppertal Icon_minitime21/11/2021, 11:30

To add to your post Pborn4, prior to the arrival of North Irish Horse Yeomanry RAC, the following units moved into Sagan Kaserne aka Kapellen Camp 317
3 Dec 45 – 61st Super Heavy Regiment RA with 241 and 443 Batteries
5 Dec 45 – 373 Battery of 118th Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment RA
All command 17th Army Group RA of 53rd (Welsh) Infantry Division until 15 Jan 46 then disbanded

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