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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:27

[quote="Daveb"]          

Nos 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10 and 11 Dress.

No 8 Dress when authorised by regional commanders for specific parades.

Pardon my ignorance, mate.

"No 1 dress", "No 2 dress"-roger so far.

"No 8 dress" ? What the hell is that ?

Am I to understand there are modes of dress numbering 1 to (at least) 11 ?

I bet one of them is a "Suits, Santa, Severe weather".  santa 

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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:35

Here you go.

No.8: Temperate combat dress


Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) field jacket (smock) and trousers, worn with beret, helmet or camouflaged hat. The current system is known as Combat Uniform (CU) which was introduced as part of Project PECOC and replaced the Combat Soldier 95 (CS 95) system. In recent years, the British army has begun introducing Tactical Recognition Flashes - these are distinctive insignia worn on the arm of combat gear. TRFs denote the wearer's regiment or corps (or sub division thereof in the case of the AGC). The clothing system is designed to be lightweight, yet durable enough to be used throughout rigorous activities soldiers find themselves performing. It has also been designed with the idea that layers of clothing (referred to as onion skins) are much warmer and flexible than a singular thick layer. In addition to the shirt; a t-shirt, vest, combat jacket, shirt man's field ('Norgie' or 'Norwegian'), or Gore-Tex fabric waterproof jacket is worn dependent on weather, along with various types of gloves, underwear, trousers, all-in-one suits etc.

Santa Suit = No 13 dress I think
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:40

Thanks for that.

"Various types of glove", I like the sound of that.
I hope there's an improvement on the soaking- wet "Gloves woollen, knitted", the idiots made us wear !
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:40

Sorry Brum, showing my ignorance, here are the Dress no's in use.

Uniform numbers

The British army numbers its uniforms for ease of instruction.[5] Fourteen 'orders' of dress are authorised and prescribed to be worn on various occasions (plus No. 15 dress worn only by the Royal Regiment of Scotland). "Full Dress" is also prescribed for individual regiments; outside the Household Division it is however seldom worn except by regimental drummers, buglers and other limited categories.

Note that uniform distinctions can vary greatly from one Regiment or Corps to another, and the following descriptions are a generalization. Also, while there are officially fifteen different grades (or 'Numbers'), many of these are rarely worn or are being phased out altogether. (For example, the different varieties of combat uniform (No. 5 (Desert), No. 8 (Temperate) and No. 9 (Tropical)) though still listed in the dress regulations, are in the process of being replaced by the new 'Multi-Terrain Pattern' No. 8 dress.)
Wiki has got it all on there.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:44

brum wrote:
Thanks for that.

"Various types of glove", I like the sound of that.
I hope there's an improvement on the soaking- wet "Gloves woollen, knitted", the idiots made us wear !

Gloves, wet , frozen hand went between Shoes, canvas, PT and Tins, mess, Aluminium on you 1157 I think Brum !.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 10:50

How did we ever manage with just BD & denims ? I bet Storeman (Clothing) is an A trade now ...... or what the equivalent rating is.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 11:11

cartav wrote:
How did we ever manage with just BD & denims ?  I bet Storeman (Clothing) is an A trade now ...... or what  the equivalent rating is.

Blimey it should be a T trade. lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 12:04

Nige P wrote:

............... The people like to see the soldiers 'as they are', hence marching in MTP with medals.........,
Nige

How do they know this ? Was a questionnaire distributed ? I would have thought that padding along in unpolished desert boots, or whatever they are, clad in unpressed MTP (I've learned that at least !), with a beret on top worn in any of half a dozen ways to conform with the individual's personal preference, was anything but suitable attire for a formal parade.

As I've quoted my mate before ....... "It depends on your standards " . If that's 'as they are' somebody should get a grip.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 14:27

Daveb wrote:
Here you go.

No.8: Temperate combat dress


Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) field jacket (smock) and trousers, worn with beret, helmet or camouflaged hat. The current system is known as Combat Uniform (CU) which was introduced as part of Project PECOC and replaced the Combat Soldier 95 (CS 95) system. In recent years, the British army has begun introducing Tactical Recognition Flashes - these are distinctive insignia worn on the arm of combat gear. TRFs denote the wearer's regiment or corps (or sub division thereof in the case of the AGC). The clothing system is designed to be lightweight, yet durable enough to be used throughout rigorous activities soldiers find themselves performing. It has also been designed with the idea that layers of clothing (referred to as onion skins) are much warmer and flexible than a singular thick layer. In addition to the shirt; a t-shirt, vest, combat jacket, shirt man's field ('Norgie' or 'Norwegian'), or Gore-Tex fabric waterproof jacket is worn dependent on weather, along with various types of gloves, underwear, trousers, all-in-one suits etc.

Santa Suit = No 13 dress I think


As Harold Macmillan once said "You've never had it so good". How do they manage to get all that kit in their suitcase and kitbag, there can't be much room left for their Holdall, Housewife or Buttonstick.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 14:55

Shelldrake wrote:
Daveb wrote:
Here you go.

No.8: Temperate combat dress


Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) field jacket (smock) and trousers, worn with beret, helmet or camouflaged hat. The current system is known as Combat Uniform (CU) which was introduced as part of Project PECOC and replaced the Combat Soldier 95 (CS 95) system. In recent years, the British army has begun introducing Tactical Recognition Flashes - these are distinctive insignia worn on the arm of combat gear. TRFs denote the wearer's regiment or corps (or sub division thereof in the case of the AGC). The clothing system is designed to be lightweight, yet durable enough to be used throughout rigorous activities soldiers find themselves performing. It has also been designed with the idea that layers of clothing (referred to as onion skins) are much warmer and flexible than a singular thick layer. In addition to the shirt; a t-shirt, vest, combat jacket, shirt man's field ('Norgie' or 'Norwegian'), or Gore-Tex fabric waterproof jacket is worn dependent on weather, along with various types of gloves, underwear, trousers, all-in-one suits etc.

Santa Suit = No 13 dress I think


As Harold Macmillan once said "You've never had it so good".   How do they manage to get all that kit in their suitcase and kitbag, there can't be much room left for their Holdall, Housewife  or Buttonstick.
Not to mention drawers cellular. But then I don't suppose they use Brasso or blanco now. santa 
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 15:01

Chemist wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
Daveb wrote:
Here you go.

No.8: Temperate combat dress


Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) field jacket (smock) and trousers, worn with beret, helmet or camouflaged hat. The current system is known as Combat Uniform (CU) which was introduced as part of Project PECOC and replaced the Combat Soldier 95 (CS 95) system. In recent years, the British army has begun introducing Tactical Recognition Flashes - these are distinctive insignia worn on the arm of combat gear. TRFs denote the wearer's regiment or corps (or sub division thereof in the case of the AGC). The clothing system is designed to be lightweight, yet durable enough to be used throughout rigorous activities soldiers find themselves performing. It has also been designed with the idea that layers of clothing (referred to as onion skins) are much warmer and flexible than a singular thick layer. In addition to the shirt; a t-shirt, vest, combat jacket, shirt man's field ('Norgie' or 'Norwegian'), or Gore-Tex fabric waterproof jacket is worn dependent on weather, along with various types of gloves, underwear, trousers, all-in-one suits etc.

Santa Suit = No 13 dress I think


As Harold Macmillan once said "You've never had it so good".   How do they manage to get all that kit in their suitcase and kitbag, there can't be much room left for their Holdall, Housewife  or Buttonstick.
Not to mention drawers cellular. But then I don't suppose they use Brasso or blanco now. santa 

They probably us shoes bulling program 12.2.50 and trousers cleaning program 15.10.0 and this is without the computers help LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 15:15

There will be an EMER for REME types, Eric.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   13/12/2013, 15:25

Shelldrake wrote:
There will be an EMER for REME types, Eric.

The Artillery is all computer controled now also, no need for gunners just a few computer savey types. More redundancies on the way me finks.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   6/4/2014, 08:56

What you miss when you are on the parade

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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   6/4/2014, 22:59

Eric England wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
There will be an EMER for REME types, Eric.

The Artillery is all computer controled now also, no need for gunners just a few computer savey types. More redundancies on the way me finks.

I served with 39 Hy (MLRS) Regt during the Gulf War. The lads had only just received the MLRS system and we were deployed to Saudi and carried out the commissioning firing whilst out there. The Regt had 'T' Shirts produced saying 'Grid Square Removal Service'. On the commissioning firing, they missed the grid square by 2K's.

After much testing of the equipment and the Colonel blaming the Met, it came to light that the planks couldn't press the right buttons for the Grid reference.

Oh how we laughed!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Ceremonial   7/4/2014, 12:56

I remember that - it was about the same time that VMs became Fitters. Rolling Eyes 
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