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"john boy"
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Number of posts : 939
Age : 56
Localisation : shrewsbury
Cap Badge : acc
Places Served : aldershot/albermarle bks ouston-father LI- gib- berlin NI- lemgo- colchester- shrewsbury-tidworth left82
Registration date : 2010-12-30

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PostSubject: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime11/4/2016, 20:04

Who can we trust  2Q== This bloke NAH !!!!

Who can we trust  Corbyn-wave_3440834b NOT A CHANCE

Who can we trust  First-Minister-and-SNP-leader-Nicola-Sturgeon ??????

Who can we trust  Grumpy-old-men YEAH we got a muppet running this country...... WHO WOULD YOU (not) TRUST Very Happy lol!
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JPW
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Number of posts : 1098
Age : 78
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime12/4/2016, 17:42

Only the senior members of the A Mess of this site
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unclevanya
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Number of posts : 230
Age : 74
Localisation : Essex UK
Cap Badge : R Sigs
Places Served : 11 Sigs Vimy 'C' Catterick Nov 1963), 224 (Radio) Sig Squadron Garrats Hey, Quorn Leics( Jan-June 1964), 16 Sigs Bradbury Barracks Krefeld July-Oct 1964), 28 (BR) Sigs St Tonis & 4 Squadron, Tongeren (Cafe Maddy) (1964-1968), HQ UNFICYP Nicosia 6 month tour (1966), HMS Jufair & Hamala Camp Bahrien, 223 Sig Sqn (Radio) Winchester, Norn Ireland, HQ Northag Kolsas Olso Norway, 11 Sigs Helles Lines Catterick, Civvy Street 1977, Retired (Grumpy Victor Meldrew 2012)
Registration date : 2012-07-15

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PostSubject: 'Liberty, Equality, fraternity' It all Sucks!   Who can we trust  Icon_minitime3/9/2016, 10:48

I do find a trend in politicians today, that once they have been elected, they become a tad tiresome and often more than a bit arrogant at times. I know that our elected Boys and Gels have a task to do, and that is running/governing the country in all its aspects, and that this is a highly complex business; all done with the aid of the Civil Service and advisors.

When I cast my weary eyes across the water, La Manche at our political elites of the EU (European Union) or as I call them, the EU-SSR's Brussels Politburo, my hackles rise a little bit, just a little. When you read reports in various newspapers, and also watch U-Tube clips of the proceedings of the EU Parliament - some of those EU 'apparatchiks' as I call them, come across as more than a little bit arrogant. Characters such as Claude Junkers, and his predecessor, Barrosso. they are all, in my opinion, Euro-Marxists, or certainly many of them come out of that school of politics. Hence why I call the EU -- EU-SSR.

Coming back to the United Kingdom, I think that New Labour under Blair, Brown, Mandelson et allia did some good stuff, but also made some monumental cock-up such as becoming involved in Iraq and Afghanistan on the coat tails of the American Military. We all know the mess that has created, and in the post Chilcott Report days, much will be chewed over as to who is responsible (blah, blah, blah). Being involved in Iraq, it has been stated, is the equivalent of a Foreign affairs blunder even worse than the Suez Crisis of the 1950s for Britain..

Mr Cameron, when he was our PM, stated “We are all in this together" alluding to the austerity policy. This is all very well, but all the evidence and anecdotal evidence is that the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer. Those on the bottom of the social pile are being hammered unfairly in the 'hits' they have to take. Those of middle incomes and higher incomes can ride out these austerity measures. The same thing is happening across the EU, and in America. How long do these austerity measure go on for the citizens, meanwhile, the Public debt keeps rising from government borrowings and also private debt.

I just hope that our new PM, Mrs May, who comes from a 'normal' background, rather than an elite one like Cameron, Blair, Mandelson etc; gets a better grip of matters - and LISTEN to peoples concerns, especially over immigration, and does NOT dismiss this out of hand like New Labour's crowed of so-and-sos did.

Meanwhile in Scotland, the Scottish First Minister and leader of the SNP is looking more and more ‘touched’ by ‘Braveheart’ sentiments, and also somewhat seduced by the EU and some La-La land future for an independent Scotland. Many Scottish voters are not that impressed with Our Nicola’s antics, certainly no economic and financial utterances.

As for the EU, and now 'Brexit'. I think that we are better off out. The UK is NOT turning its abck on Europe, nor the EU. We will continue to trade etc, and do business with Europe as we do elsewhere. What needs to change is the 'Fixed Hundred Miles Stare' of those EU bureaucrats and apparatchiks. The EU needs to be reformed from top to bottom. But the likely hood of this happening any time soon is remote in my opinion. The 'Status Quo' over there will be maintained at whatever the costs - meanwhile Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and of Greece are all still have financial 'problems', especially Greece.

There are elections in 2017 in France and Germany. It is likely that both Hollonde of France will be ousted, and Mrs Merkel in Germany in turn. They are not the 'flavours of the month' in their respective states. The problem is with the extreme right in politics across the EU. We could see a Front Nationale government undera Le Penne presidency.

Across the waters in America, we can see a similar political disconnect playing out between Trump and Hilary Clinton. This does not give confidence in either of these people - but we will have to wait and see if wiser heads prevail in their respective advisors. The same over here in the UK, and across the EU.

We will all become wage slaves of the mighty, the mega-rich etc, as they attempt to bring back some form of ‘political and economic serfdom’ for those who have little, and a freedom to what they like financially for those who much.

“liberty, Equality, Fraternity” – it all sucks!!   Very Happy  Cool
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Number of posts : 1041
Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook)
Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places
Registration date : 2007-12-16

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PostSubject: Re: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime7/9/2016, 04:45

When it comes to politicians making decisions on our be-half: Be wary.
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unclevanya
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Number of posts : 230
Age : 74
Localisation : Essex UK
Cap Badge : R Sigs
Places Served : 11 Sigs Vimy 'C' Catterick Nov 1963), 224 (Radio) Sig Squadron Garrats Hey, Quorn Leics( Jan-June 1964), 16 Sigs Bradbury Barracks Krefeld July-Oct 1964), 28 (BR) Sigs St Tonis & 4 Squadron, Tongeren (Cafe Maddy) (1964-1968), HQ UNFICYP Nicosia 6 month tour (1966), HMS Jufair & Hamala Camp Bahrien, 223 Sig Sqn (Radio) Winchester, Norn Ireland, HQ Northag Kolsas Olso Norway, 11 Sigs Helles Lines Catterick, Civvy Street 1977, Retired (Grumpy Victor Meldrew 2012)
Registration date : 2012-07-15

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PostSubject: Re: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 17:02

So - what do folks here think about the new POTUS in Americky, Don Chump as their Commander-in-Chief? Will he change and moderate his bullying ways or not. Some media hacks who know him say not, he will just as arrogant, monochromatic and obnoxious as he was when on the campaign trail. Only time will tell if he is constrained by wiser heads in his Cabinet.

The post of President arries 'Executive Powers' and which have been used by past US Presidents to by-pass the Senate and Congress. A 'Presdiential Order' can carry weight, but depending on what its contents are, could be challenged by the US Supreme Court.

Will Don Chump serve a full term, a one-termner, or will he be impeached in time for some alleged crimes comitted 'real or imagined'. As for the 'Wall' he is going to build along the Mexican-US Border, is this for reall or just Don bumping his gums for something to say? bounce What a Face
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Number of posts : 14
Age : 61
Localisation : UK
Cap Badge : REME 1975 - 1988
Places Served : Arbourfield, SEME, 16 tank Tptr Sqn, 1 Queens/1 BW LAD, BATUS Wksp, 174 Provo Coy LAD, 27 Command Wksp, 22 AD Regt LAD
Registration date : 2017-01-08

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PostSubject: Re: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime27/1/2017, 15:33

I've heard the new word 'Trumpanzee' used rather a lot lately & in my view it does seem to describe him very well. To be honest I believe that if he doesn't change his ways someone will probably top him. Either that or he'll hopefully get impeached before he plunges us into a nuclear holocaust. It would appear that North Korea are itching to launch a few missiles in Trump's direction. All it will take is one stupid tw*t... Sorry, sorry ,sorry... TWEET! I meant TWEET! Honestly...!

Incidentally, have any other countries had a leader named after a bodily function...?



Here we go on the soapbox then. Gather round, men...

I'm not a big fan of politicians of any party as they all lie like hell to get voted in, then grab as much as they can to benefit themselves once they are actually in. If you go to them with a problem they either ignore you & don't do anything or tell you that they can't do anything as their hands are tied with red tape. It really annoys me when you see live footage of the House of Commons with a really important debate or discussion going on & there's always one or two fast asleep. If I had ever fallen asleep while I was supposed to be working, my feet wouldn't have touched the ground, the same as the rest of us.

I became a prominent member of the Motorcycle Action Group after I left the Army & had dealings with a vast number of politicians from all parties over the years, covering a variety of motorcycle related campaigns. As far as I'm concerned, most politicians are the same - a bunch of freeloading slackers. One or two do actually listen to what you have to say & try to make changes, but the majority are just terrified of 'upsetting the party' or 'not toeing the party line'.

Trust no-one in the political world...
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JGW
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Number of posts : 10
Localisation : Melksham, Wiltshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : AAS Arborfield, 5 Inf Wksps then 14 Regt. RA Dortmund, 1 Inf Wksps Aden, 22 Sigs Lippstadt, REBCS then 65CSS RE Hameln, Borden, 15/19 H then 9/12 Lancers Tidworth, 4 ADSR, Herford, QoH then 4/7 DGuards Detmold.
Registration date : 2019-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: Who can we trust    Who can we trust  Icon_minitime29/4/2019, 23:43

It's sometime since the last comment was posted on here and a lot has happened in those two years - although sadly not Brexit.
However, because of this stupidity, we are all far more aware of how little politicians achieve because of childish bickering. We know that many of these public servants who we elected to represent us in Parliament fail spectacularly to achieve that and think they know best. We all know far more about Parliamentary procedures.
It doesn't matter if you are a Leaver or a Remainer, Labour or Conservative this 'Mother of Parliaments' and particularly the Prime Minister has betrayed the British people. How they thought they would get away with it is quite beyond me.
As I write we are approaching both the EU Parliamentary elections and some UK local elections, and already Farage's new Brexit Party is forging ahead in the polls. Now we know that polls have a habit of being terribly wrong, but I think that the British people have been pushed far enough and are now about to start fighting back and this poll is going to prove correct.
Personally, I hope that the Eurorats in Brussels will see that the majority of British seats (if not all) will go to Brexit MEP's and common sense (does that still exist?) will tell them that 50 MEPs who are totally against the EU will cause disruption and descension, as well as encourage those 'member states' (no longer countries) who are thinking of calling their own referendum and where the Far Right are gaining footholds and expel us as a damage limitation exercise.
We don't seem to have MP's with any backbone to stand up to those in Westminster (or Brussels) trying to break democracy - and that includes Theresa May, who I think has possibly already done a deal with Brussels and is now trying to implement it - and Corbin Larden who supports every terrorist group under the sun, but thinks ex Brit Paras should be prosecuted and the Lib Dems....do they have a leader? Oh yes - nutty Cable. Nearly forgot him. He hasn't uttered inanities for months now. They all appear to be self destructing.

The average calm British voter who traditionally supported one of the two main Parties has been pushed to a point where they will vote anywhere but those Parties. There are Luvvie Lefts who put on demonstrations and shout the odds, but most of us don't get our knickers in that much of a twist - unlike some of the Europeans.

I would have thought that the selection committees up and down the country would be watching their current MP very closely, and looking for a new candidate if their MP is going against the majority of votes (Remain or Leave) in the constituency. If they don't the voters first I.A. will be to get rid of them. I doubt if there will be any such thing as a 'safe seat' in the next General Election and I visualise some prominent current politicians joining the dole queue. Cleggy went at the last one. First of many perhaps?


I must emphasis that this is MY VIEW. I do realise that it will not be everyone's view.
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