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soprano54
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Number of posts : 160
Age : 61
Localisation : Gloucestershire
Cap Badge : RTR
Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime20/1/2017, 14:52

Trying to identify the location of the barracks in these photos that were posted over on 'Facebook' by a guy who bought them at a German 'Flea Market', unfortunately the seller couldn't give any details! There are a couple of theories being banded about but I think it is Cromwell Bks in Hamm, the one time home of 2 ADS (Armd Delivery Sqn) and 617 Tank Transporter Sqn.

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alan8376
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Number of posts : 482
Age : 72
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime21/1/2017, 09:34

Is the tank a Conquer?
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soprano54
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Number of posts : 160
Age : 61
Localisation : Gloucestershire
Cap Badge : RTR
Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime21/1/2017, 14:19

alan8376 wrote:
Is the tank a Conquer?

The one on it's own is a Conquerer yes, the others are Centurions!
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JPW
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Number of posts : 1103
Age : 78
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 17:52

Think we can discount Cromwell Barracks Hamm, there would have been ANTARS or equivalent on show

Think this is a Tank Park of a working Armoured Regiment located in a Hitler era build barracks. We can therefore discount the Loddenheide complex at Munster and the Dodesheide complex at Osnabruck and Barker Barracks Paderborn. which is still in use.

One of our Ironside callsigns must recall which Regiments were equiped with Centurions with a Conqueror troop in each Sabre Squadron in the 1960s.
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soprano54
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Number of posts : 160
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Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 18:27

JPW wrote:
Think we can discount Cromwell Barracks Hamm, there would have been ANTARS or equivalent on show

Think this is a Tank Park of a working Armoured Regiment located in a Hitler era build barracks. We can therefore discount the Loddenheide complex at Munster and the Dodesheide complex at Osnabruck and Barker Barracks Paderborn. which is still in use.

One of our Ironside callsigns must recall which Regiments were equiped with Centurions with a Conqueror troop in each Sabre Squadron in the 1960s.

All them were ISTR!
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BobG
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Number of posts : 330
Age : 81
Localisation : Northumberland
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can.
Registration date : 2008-02-27

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 19:12

I was ASM of 617 Tk Tptr Wksp and the photos are just as I remember Cromwell Bks, Hamm. The photos could have been taken about the time when Cents and Conqs were being replaced by Chieftains. 2 ADS had limited hanger space which would have been used for the Chieftains for security reasons and the old tanks parked up on part of the veh park before back loading to UK. The full sqn of Antars only took up half of the available parking space.
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JPW
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Number of posts : 1103
Age : 78
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 19:22

I am not going to argue with my good friend Bob G, particularly as many years experience taught me that you annoy your REME ASM at your peril (and this applies equally to all capbadges)
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soprano54
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Number of posts : 160
Age : 61
Localisation : Gloucestershire
Cap Badge : RTR
Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 20:10

BobG wrote:
I was ASM of 617 Tk Tptr Wksp and the photos are just as I remember Cromwell Bks, Hamm. The photos could have been taken about the time when Cents and Conqs were being replaced by Chieftains. 2 ADS had limited hanger space which would have been used for the Chieftains for security reasons and the old tanks parked up on part of the veh park before back loading to UK. The full sqn of Antars only took up half of the available parking space.

Thanks BobG! These photos were also in the same batch:-

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Looks like the same civvy fitter (wearing glasses) in the last two pics! You might recognise him BobG!


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steve
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Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 21:17

Fantastic images
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JPW
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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 21:46

It's Bob G who is the expert on Cromwell Barracks, I was a spotty teenage schoolboy when I lived in Hamm briefly in the mid 1950s (my father was based elsewhere in the town in Newcastle Barracks)
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soprano54
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Number of posts : 160
Age : 61
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Cap Badge : RTR
Places Served : Fallingbostel, Tidworth, Paderborn, Cyprus, Bovington, Hemer, NI, Coltishall, Incirlik, Benson
Registration date : 2007-03-10

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime22/1/2017, 22:13

JPW wrote:
It's Bob G who is the expert on Cromwell Barracks, I was a spotty teenage schoolboy when I lived in Hamm briefly in the mid 1950s (my father was based elsewhere in the town in Newcastle Barracks)

Sorted!
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alan8376
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Localisation : Norfolk, UK
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime23/1/2017, 08:55

Now for the $100000 question! Who is the guy wearing glasses?
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PostSubject: Re: Barracks identity!   Barracks identity! Icon_minitime7/2/2020, 19:23

alan8376 wrote:
Now for the $100000 question! Who is the guy wearing glasses?

Probably a few years too late, but for anyone who is interested, the civvy in the two photos is a German electrician, Bill Holscher(sp?). Used to smoke a stinking pipe!! I was with 2 ADS from 1969 - 73, and for anyone interested, I've got a photo somewhere of us (Germans, MOJOs and Brits) on a "jolly" to the VW factory in Wolfsburg(?) and Herr Holscher is in plain sight.
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