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 Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out

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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 182
Age : 71
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

PostSubject: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    19/11/2017, 23:15

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Need to Know
Disbandment and Closure of Employment Agencies
Published: 14 November 2017
Disbandment and Closure of Employment Agencies in Paderborn, Sennelager and Bielefeld

On Thursday 2 November 2017, Commander British Forces Germany addressed the Locally Engaged Civilian Workforce regarding imminent action to close the employment agencies in Paderborn, Sennelager and Bielefeld. This action directly relates to the closure of Headquarters British Forces Germany and has implications on the locally employed workforce.

Following direction in the 2010 Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) and as confirmed on 5 March 2013 by the Secretary of State for Defence; the British Army will rebase from Germany by 2020. The Ministry of Defence confirmed on 5 November 2015 that the final Field Army units would withdraw from Germany in 2019. As a consequence of this rebasing instruction, Commander British Forces Germany has decided that the Agencies in Paderborn, Sennelager and Bielefeld are to disband and close on 31 December 2019. This decision will mean job losses for those locally employed civilians employed by these Agencies.

The British Command in Germany will strive to ensure that DEL employees are supported as far as possible with the transition from their current employment. Retraining opportunities will be made available and staff will be provided with a notice period of at least 12 months, where possible. Headquarters British Forces Germany has a dedicated team responsible for providing guidance and assistance to current employees and they will also play an active role in providing training courses in liaison with the Agentur für Arbeit. Employees will be given paid time off for appointments to consult with those representatives and for participating in early profiling exercises. Where operationally feasible, DEL employees will be released from work on continued full payment of salary to attend training courses organised either through the Agentur für Arbeit or other training providers. In addition, paid release from work may also be granted for work experience and attendance at job interviews. Our Dependant staff will also be fully supported throughout this period.

Information on further re-basing activities scheduled for 2018 and 2019 will be published when final details are known.


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Age : 79
Localisation : Peachland British Columbia, Canada
Cap Badge : Black Watch of Canada
Places Served : 4 CIBG Soest and Werl 1957-1965, Camp Borden, Camp Gagetown
Registration date : 2009-06-04

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    22/11/2017, 03:28

It's poignant, but we all knew it was coming sooner or later. There's a beginning and an end to everything and BAOR is no exception. However we still have this wonderful web page to keep us together and re-live the old times. Not only were they old, they were GOOD times!

Cheers!
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Number of posts : 3016
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    22/11/2017, 07:25

recce83 wrote:
It's poignant, but we all knew it was coming sooner or later. There's a beginning and an end to everything and BAOR is no exception. However we still have this wonderful web page to keep us together and re-live the old times. Not only were they old, they were GOOD times!

Cheers!


Hear, hear! Would the last person to leave BAOR please switch off the light.
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Number of posts : 212
Age : 79
Localisation : Peachland British Columbia, Canada
Cap Badge : Black Watch of Canada
Places Served : 4 CIBG Soest and Werl 1957-1965, Camp Borden, Camp Gagetown
Registration date : 2009-06-04

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    23/11/2017, 19:05

I guess there'll be some kind of final ceremony, (probably with a Bundeswehr band playing "Will Ye No Come Back Again") somewhere or other in Germany. Maybe it will be time for the King of Procrastinators to finally make it over there for the big event, especially if there's free beer and food, after 52 years.

Actually, my big excuse for not visiting the old haunts is due to other people I soldiered with  regretting their trips to see their old barracks and environs, which seems to fall under the You Can't Go Home Again Act. Just a quick look at Google Earth seems to substantiate that, however maybe I should just grit my teeth and go, especially if the free beer is cold and the free food plentiful. I'll even turn off the lights if I manage to empty the keg!

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
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Number of posts : 3016
Localisation : Camberley
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Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    24/11/2017, 17:35

Do you think so, I won't be holding my breath. A couple of years ago we were in Scotland on holiday when we got chatting to two German girls who were on the "Whisky Trail", they were probably mid to late 20s. One girl was from Hamburg and the other from Essen, when they asked where we learnt to speak German we explained that we had been stationed with the British Army in various locations in NRW. Neither of them knew that there had been a British Army presence in Germany, I could understand the girl from Hamburg being unaware, but the girl from Essen?

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 182
Age : 71
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    22/7/2018, 19:15

Before you all go:

And the show goes on   ..........

Following the success of the British in Westfalen exhibition that ran through the winter 2017/18 in Paderborn,
(Curator:  bettina-blum@web.de)
a mini-exhibition is on tour through Westfalia .  The size has been reduced not just because some exhibits
were on loan and have been returned, but to fit the surroundings and to be easily transportable  - keeps costs down,

In the mean time, Bettina Blum's team is collecting memoribilia, ephemera, pictures, maps and memories from
the many people and families who had been touched or were affected by the "Brits" in Barracks, in Town, on Exercises,
or socially engaged in their (German) environment.

They want to meet and hear from whoever remembers or has photos/photo albums, or kept any souvenirs from:

      -   soldiers boosting skills in village and local football teams,
      -   trucks, antennae and cook sites moving on to a farmyard in the middle of the night
      -   Colourful (loud) Marching bands at Schützenfests and Open Days
      -   Karnival and Schützenfest, Feuerwehrfests and other beer-drinking competitions
     -    Rhine Army Summer Shows at Bad Lippspringe - back when it was a Horse Event and an early Floh-Markt
          (or the copy event at Rheindahlen)
     -    the Golf courses at Garrison towns
     -    Grape Harvest in the Rhineland
     -    Children's Christmas parties, Carol services
     -    BFBS / BFN  radio shows
     -    Went to a BFES School in Germany ?
     -    Forces Post Offices and their First Day Covers

and the many other points of contact between the Forces and the world outside camp!
     
The touring exhibition will be at these venues:

           From  
           26 Aug 18             Mindener Stadt Museum
           28 Oct 18             City Archives  Hamm
           13 Jan  19             Ermschertal Museum Herne
           17 Mar 19             Historisches Museum Bielefeld
           19 May 19             Städtisches Museum Herford
           21 Jul   19             Kreismuseum  Wewelsburg (nr Paderborn)

The virtual tour and highlights of the original Paderborn exhibition are on-line here:

            www.paderborner-konversion.de/briten-westfalen/virtueller-rundgang

The organisers have not forgotten that many Nations contributed to the British presence
in  Nord Rhein Westfalen, and contributions and memories are invited from:
Canadian, Dutch, Belgian, Polish, Danish, Norwegian, Maltese and American communities that
had been a part of modern history, and whose inclusion and participation is foreseen for future exhibitions.

In similar vein it is appreciated that the British community included the British Army (much of which has
been whittled away in modern terms), the Royal Navy  (Minden, Oeynhausen, Bad Salzuflen, Krefeld (Uerdingen),
and the Rhine), the RAF (Bad Eilsen, Scharfoldenforf as well as the major flying sites),  CCG (BE) - all 25,000
of them, British Resident Officers and the JSL Organisation, Defence Estates,  MPBW and its  succesors,
and the CVWW groups (Red Shield, Toc H, YMCA, WVS/WRVS) that supplied welfare support inside and outside camp.  
NAAFI (BFI) with its in-camp canteens and shops, Families mini shops and supermarkets.   All had some interface with
civilians outside the camps.

A very large subject being treated robustly and sympathetically to record Brits at peace in Westfalia and the Rhineland,
and linking the  Brits who have made their home in what had been the British Zone of Germany.
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Pborn4
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Number of posts : 182
Age : 71
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    28/7/2018, 23:04

Stand Fast the Rear Rank


https://www.forces.net/news/200-british-soldiers-remain-paderborn

Normandy Barracks, Sennelager (Image: Stadt Paderborn).

One hundred and eighty-five military personnel and 60 Ministry of Defence civilians will continue to live in Paderborn with their family members, the MoD has confirmed.

The figure came after the Paderborn local government announced that 200 British Army soldiers would be staying.

In addition, British troops will also continue to use Sennelager Training Area.

The 45 square mile facility allows for large-scale manoeuvres to be rehearsed and there is also an urban warfare training centre.

Welsh Guards used the site's combined arms tactical trainer (CATT a Lockheed Martin simulator product) to prepare to deploy to Afghanistan.

Paderborn's local government said efforts to convert the Sennelager Training Area into a national park “would be put on hold”.
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Number of posts : 182
Age : 71
Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3
Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

PostSubject: Re: Nearly Closing Down - Final Curtain and Lights Out    7/10/2018, 13:02

Gavin the UK Defence Minister met up with  German counterpart Ursula von der Layen in Minden (on an M3 Bridge over the Weser) and promised at least 2000 BR vehicles would stay in Germany with the UK troops to operate them.  Minden, Paderborn, Wulfen and Monchengladbach to remain and Sennelager Training Centre & Area stays as a training asset.

This link (with photos)>  https://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Fotos/Kreis-Minden-Luebbecke/Verteidigungsministerin-Ursula-von-der-Leyen-zu-Besuch-in-Minden-und-Augustdorf    may vanish with time!

[Augustdorf (home of 21 GE Pz Bde) is where the Host welcomed her visitor is on the Northern tip of the Sennelager Trg Area - most of the Tank action is on B Range - and they seem to have signed an agreement
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