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Cathy Mayes
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PostSubject: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime1/7/2018, 13:35

I am looking for information about people who worked in the CCG. My father was attached to the unit between June 45 and Aug 46. He was in the Minden area, part of the time. Tom had been a Sergeant and was sent to the Civil Affairs mob training Centre for CCG 31-03-45 joining the CCG 14-06-45. I would be very interested in anyone who may have known him, or of him at the time.
Sadly I never knew him.

Many thanks
Cathy
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime1/7/2018, 19:05

Cathy, welcome to the site.

CCG and Minden connections were rather specialist areas during the dates you mentioned.

Our specialist resident members are rather busy at the moment. I am sure they will be along later to welcome you as well.

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Alan
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime1/7/2018, 19:53

Thank you. I have been told that my father was an interpreter or translator at the Nuremburg trials and wonder if he was seconded from the CCG for that purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime1/7/2018, 21:18

Cathy,
How did you learn of his language capabilities?  Nurenburg trials would have demanded very accurate simultaneous translation work. Which is to be expected of a native speaker?

Strangely, I recently was reading about a list of translators/Interpretors at that trial. Of course I did not save the source!

Did you apply for T.P McEagan's Service History to gain the information regarding Nuremburg Trials?

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Alan
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My Aunt told me that he was self taught following on from night school., he spoke several languages fluently and had an ear for them. It was my Aunt who told me that he had been either an interpreter or possibly a translator at the trials, She has been right about everything else and so there must have been something that made her think that. I have his records from the MOD and following his attachment to the CCG there are six lines of information that are redacted. There is no mention of the Nuremburg Trials.
I am just trying to piece together his life, I never knew him and as he died at 61 years and in South Africa, I have little to go on. I do know that he learnt the Afrikaans language so that he could work with the local people more easily!
Any information would be really appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime2/7/2018, 10:04

Welcome Cathy

My research does not extended to the Control Commission Germany but able to supply some information

The Headquarters Control Commission Germany (British Element) were located at the Taxhouse in Lübbecke

Headquarters Military Government Regionalbezirk Minden & Land Lippe (507) were in Minden, first location was in Barkhausen south of Minden, to the centre by 23 Aug 45 then by 15 Nov 45 to a new location by the river

The War Crimes Investigation Specialist Pool later Unit (BAOR) were at Luisen Strasse 1, Bad Oeynhausen, with 3 teams (locations unknown) later reduced to 2 by Jun 46, by Jul 47 became just War Crimes Group (North West Europe)

That is the limit of my records

Best of luck with your research
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Many thanks, all the little bits help to piece things together.
Best Wishes
Cathy
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime3/7/2018, 19:34

Cathy

Welcome

There is little I can add to the input of my good friends Steve and Alan other than Bad Salzuflen was a very significant location for CCG activities

You might like to glance at the following two sites which provide some interesting background information of the British (and other nations) translators/interpreters at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials.

www.historyextra.com/period/second-world-war/foreign-trials-the-other-side-of-the-nuremburg/

www.translatorsmusings.com/2014/10/01/list-of-nuremburg-interpreters
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime3/7/2018, 19:52

JPW,
Both your links inop!
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PostSubject: Re: Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG   Information re Thomas Patrick Mcegan CCG Icon_minitime3/7/2018, 22:45

Alan

Apologies- as you know currently have significant eyesight problem not helped by current brilliant sunshine

Back to basics-Enter

Nuremberg War Crimes British Interpreters in Google Search

You should then find the topic heading links I quoted
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