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Colin Sayers
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Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 12:07

In 1978 whilst on exercise I was in a Fox in the Kiel area and involved in a road accident. I was in the 2RTR and was in the turret of a Fox doing 70mph when we rolled, ended up stuck by the neck on a German farmers fence. I am trying to obtain pictures of the accident which was in the Regimental magazine but also trying to get Medical information but I spent the first few days on the critical list and finished hospital treatment in BMH Munster which is sadly closed now. This is a long time ago but I would much appreciate any help that I get in try to get evidence/records/pictures of this incident. Thankyou
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 16:55

Colin,

Can you supply more facts for this site please?

A more accurate date might be more useful. Maybe a more accurate description of location and date is mentioned in the Regimental magazine?

Thanks
Alan


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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 17:02

I cannot remember the date exactly but it was July 1978 and we were on exercise in the Schleswig Holstein area of Germany. I would imagine that the details would of been displayed in the August monthly magazine, if it was produced monthly?
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Number of posts : 973
Age : 86
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 18:00

It will be in your Military Medial Records.
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 18:09

Not letters and documented conversations between medical officers/ officers of my regiment, while I was on the critical list in hospital
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 19:11

Colin,
Does this refer to you? Were you the Sqn Clerk? if it does! Suggest you get onto joining 2 RTR (Not the Face Book Version).

I had a look at the 2RTR. I was a mate or Rowdy Yates  at Muenster.  2RTR (Not a relative!). .

I thought the roll over was black jacko and his crew of Hounslow and sayer the sqn clerk who ended up being called zip head due to his head injuries him and jacko in hospital Hounslow driving minor abrations!
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 19:42

The name rowdy yates rings a bell, short with glasses? I was the squadron clerk and suffered a brain haemorage and fractured skull, Jacko broke his leg in 3 places after getting it caught in the turret mechanism. I am trying to get a copy or picture of the accident and letters/documents of phonecalls between the regiment and my parents so I can make a claim for injuries, then and now
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime8/11/2018, 19:45

Colin, Rowdy (RiP), was a short guy and a football fanatic. We lived in next blk flats at Roxel.

I am trying to find out more about his passing!

Alan
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime9/11/2018, 10:26

To Alan 8376, I will ask Tony Gregory if he knows anything and I believe Mick Tarren and Dave Furze still live in this area. If you know of anybody that is likely to have a copy of the Regimental magazine around the time of my accident? then I would be grateful if you would share my request. Thankyou. What is your surname please Alan and what Squadron were you in?
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime9/11/2018, 10:48

Colin.

Me never at 2 RTR.! I was REME at 6 FD Wksp, Muenster.

I have placed your request with 2 RTR Forum.

PLEASE send me your email address via the PM to me. Don't need to keep contacting via this link with each bit of info



I'll then link you with info from contacts at  2 RTR. I have explained to the forum what you seek, inc photo from magazine.

Alan

PS. I think Rowdy's cousin, Johnny Horten passed on this week. I Noted: George is in Pallative Care.
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alan8376
Col
Col


Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime12/11/2018, 20:13

Hi Colin,

I hope all is well with you?  Not heard from you for afew days!

I have tracked a copy of your Fox involved in that accident. Quality of photo not very good!

Paul Hounslow led me to the photo on the 2 RTR site. He sends his regards, but can't add anything to help you futher.

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When you contact me, I will send you a Link to the photo.  In the meantime here is that photo.


Regards
Alan
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime12/11/2018, 22:15

Thanks a lot Alan, more than grateful and anything else would be much appreciated. You still didn't tell me your surname or what squadron you were in. Once again Thankyo, it means a lot to me bcos I have never seen pictures or write up. My short term memory is shot to pieces but I can remember some things from my Army days
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime12/11/2018, 22:19

Colin,
I was REME at 6 FD Wksp Reme, Loddenheide. Near RATIO, the German Supermarket.

Regards
Alan Yates

PS. Was the Exercise you were on when you had the RTA, called 'Bold Guard' 1978?
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime12/11/2018, 22:43

I honestly can't remember the name of the exercise, I just know that it was in July 78 in the Schleswig Holstein region and I ended up in Kiel University Hospital
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 11:31

Hi Alan, any luck with the link to the picture that you were going to send me please?
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 12:12

Colin,

The Link is no use to you. You must first be a member of 2RTR site!

I could send you the photo?

Send me your email via the PM on this site OR put your email here! I will copy it. You can remove it later today.

I will PM to you my email. Then send your email to me!

Alan


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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 12:27

Sorry Alan, they are saying that I have to be a member for 7 days b4 I can send my email. I am on facebook and the picture is on a motorbike or on Whatsapp or Viber, if thats any help? I do not have a computer so doing this b4 my monthly data runs out on my phone. Thanks again
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alan8376
Col
Col


Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 12:38

Colin, Photo sent to your FB site.

Alan
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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 12:50

Now I am totally confused bcos I have not recieved afriend request from you yet
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 480
Age : 71
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 16:02

Colin,
You are now on the straight and narrow! I hope the 2 RTR Forum will bring you more info from your crew on that tragic day. At least The Fox Dvr remembers it! Maybe he can back up your future claim?

Alan

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Colin Sayers
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Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2018-11-08

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PostSubject: Re: Road accident    Road accident  Icon_minitime14/11/2018, 16:32

All links I try to open tell me I am unable, I will try on someone elses computer sometime. It would be nice to get intouch with Paul Hounslow
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