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NiallMcCathie
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PostSubject: No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6   No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6 Icon_minitime8/3/2009, 12:39

My late father was involved in this camp in 1945-6, but I have no idea in what capacity. He was in the Reconnaissance Corps (15th Scottish) from its formation, but was not with across Europe after D-Day. He was a War Service officer, ending as a Captain, leaving in 1946.

I have a reply to my father of a letter he wrote to Lord Russell of Liverpool (Neuremburg prosecutions) in which the latter mentions "No. 5 C.I.C" which he " .. often passed on my way from H.Q., B.A.O.R. to Padeborn".

Does anyone have any pointers to records about this camp - pointers to Archives, unit records, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6   No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6 Icon_minitime8/3/2009, 17:47

5 CIC was located at Staumuehle north of Sennelager in Kreis Paderborn. (The West part of Staumuehle Camp is now a Borstal type prison run by the german authorities). For the history 1945 - 48 you could look up the following at PRO Kew: War Office (WO 171/8302 and WO 171/10965. At first the camp had been under military jurisdiction (an infamous prisoner had been William Joyce - Lord Haw-Haw) however the camp quickly passed to civil (UK Home Office) jurisdiction, more records are at FO (Foreign Office) 1010/40, 1032/7921032/797, 1032/798, 1032/2228, 1050/747, 1050/748, 1050/750, 1050/752, 1050/1134, 1050/1523, 1050/1525, 1050/1526, 1051/495, 1060/4038, 1060/4040, 1060/4042, 1060/4053 and the Town Archive (Stadtarchiv) Paderborn holds a War Diary by Major Bell under ref S3/22. There is of course more - but find the bones first.
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PostSubject: Re: No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6   No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6 Icon_minitime8/3/2009, 18:20

Many thanks Paddyb - what a fantastic response!

I'll follow up those leads - well worth a special visit to Kew!

Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6   No. 5 Civilian Internment Camp, Staumuhler, 1945-6 Icon_minitime8/3/2009, 19:46

Of course on those days (pre 1946) HQ BAOR (2nd Army Defence Group) was in part still at Bad Lippspringe (moving to Bad Oeynhausen) and Paderborn was the nearest large town. The range ring road had not been built so the safe route was probably north west from Bad L on the Alte Bielefelderpoststrasse to Staumuehle and South back to Sennelager /Neuhaus [it had not had the prefix title "Schloss" yet] down to Paderborn.
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