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Webmaster Phil
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Localisation : Fallingbostel
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Places Served : Fallingbostel, Bielefeld
Registration date : 2007-03-08

PostSubject: Helmstedt   18/8/2007, 17:47

Where 246 Provost det of 2 RMP used to be stationed. They controlled all the military traffic to Berlin. They had a small camp including a NAAFI roadhouse just off the autobahn.

Can anyone add to this please?
Camp name?
Pics?

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davwood
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Places Served : Taunton. Hameln, Herford, Werl, NI, Berlin, Helmstedt, London, Rhodesia.
Registration date : 2007-08-27

PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   29/8/2007, 00:29

ACD Helstedt as it is today. Or at least when the satellite pictues were taken, which I am sure was after it was handed back to the germans

http://tinyurl.com/2gxgsg
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Places Served : Phillipines, Korea, Okinawa, Japan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Texas, South Carolina, California, Maryland.
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   19/9/2008, 00:14

Note to S/Sgt Mike Bolland,I have two fotos of freinds from the Naafi unit.I would like to download them but how do do it? You probably would know them.If so I would like to have their names.I was at the Helmstedt Detachment from 1960 to 1962,the last year as Operation Sgt. my email is <<alk.ger@arcor.de Both of the fotos show me with these two men.
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   6/10/2008, 22:46

As for that question of where that unit was statoned.It could only be at the Alpha Checkpoint by Helmstedt.The MP´s worked along with the American MPs and the Gendarmes from France. I was one of the MPs from America.
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Places Served : Fally,Colcester,N I, Hannover,Detmold,Herford,Old Dalby
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   6/10/2009, 11:44

I can remember going through there a few times.

The most memorable were when I travelled to Poland to visit my wifes relatives. The Brit side was ok but when I got to the East German side we used to be kept waiting for hours while they checked the passports.
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   7/10/2009, 01:47

So, ianr...when did you travel to Poland?

In the 70's Canadian personnel were forbidden to travel into the east sector, for obvious reasons.

My parents did go to Berlin for a weekend but they flew in via Templehof and were restricted to the American/British sectors. They did visit Checkpoint Charlie, of course (how could they not??) but weren't able to get any closer to the Eastern Sector than the observation towers allowed.

Post Berlin Wall and the end of the Cold War would of course probably free up such restrictions considerably, but I am still surprised NATO troops were able to travel into Bloc countries, unless of course by then Poland was no longer part of the Bloc and it was post-reunification so simply a matter of driving through German territory (all the same by then) and into Poland.

I would have loved to have visited Prague but of course when I was there, that was impossible.
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   7/10/2009, 09:07

My first trip was in 1979 whan I was stationed in Hannover and I went a further 4 times after that before the Wall came down.
It was quite a performance to get permission to go, especially the first time.
I remember being interviewed by the Int Corps prior to going and I obviously could not not take anything that identified me as military although the East German and Polish authorities knew who I was as I had to apply for visa's.
We were kept waiting at the East German 'Marienborn' side of the checkpoint for about 3 hours after our passports had been taken from us through a small letter box size opening in the building.
Our son who was 3 at the time was fast asleep on the back seat as it was in the early hours.
An East German guard kept walking round the car all this time.
It was quite an eerie experience.

I have also been several time since the wall came down, the first just 4 months after the event and that was pretty strange as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   7/10/2009, 15:23

Helmstedt,
Can remember well the crossing point.In the late 50s our Armd Car Troop had a narrow escape when we accidently crossed the border in a fog,and the first village we came to all the villagers come dashing out thinking we had come to liberate them!Those Daimlers certainly showed their merit on the return journey!
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PostSubject: Re: Helmstedt   8/10/2009, 02:14

donald wrote:
Helmstedt,
Can remember well the crossing point.In the late 50s our Armd Car Troop had a narrow escape when we accidently crossed the border in a fog,and the first village we came to all the villagers come dashing out thinking we had come to liberate them!Those Daimlers certainly showed their merit on the return journey!
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Eheheheheh...I think I've mentioned the story about back when the Berlin Wall went up (1961/62), DND in it's infinite wisdom thought it worthwhile to do a 'dry run' evacuation drill of military personnel and their families in the event the Russians did invade. Not a bad idea....in theory.

Thing is, some Einstein forgot to inform the local civilian authorities so when various deuce-and-a-halfs (Canadian lorries) pulled up to various locations out on the economy to collect us all (and us kids all had tags on with daddy's name, rank, and serial number), the local German population believed there was an actual invasion occurring and raced after the departing deuce-and-a-halfs desperately trying to clamber on board. Absolute mayhem! Funny in retrospect, but at the time terrifying for them, no doubt!
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