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Hardrations
Let Gen
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PostSubject: T'iss getting to be that time again. 11 November   T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Icon_minitime26/10/2009, 02:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8poZshcDj8g

I know this is a bit off subject, but I like to share it each Nov 11
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PostSubject: Re: T'iss getting to be that time again. 11 November   T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Icon_minitime26/10/2009, 13:52

As I said on BBC,you cant tire of that clip.
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PostSubject: Re: T'iss getting to be that time again. 11 November   T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Icon_minitime26/10/2009, 14:47

Can't remember where I got this one from.

WHY WEAR A POPPY

“Please wear a poppy”, the lady said
And held one out, but I shook my head
Then I stopped and watched as she offered them, there
And her face was old and lined with care
But beneath the lines the years had made,
There remained a smile that refused to fade

A boy came whistling down the street,
Bouncing along on carefree feet
His smile was full of joy and fun
“Lady”, he said, “Can I have one?”
When she pinned it on he turned to say,
“Why do we wear a poppy today?”

The lady smiled in a wistful way,
And answered “This is Remembrance Day,
And the poppy there, is the symbol for,
The gallant men who died in war,
And because they did, you and I are free
That’s why we wear a poppy, you see”.

I had a boy about your size,
With golden hair and big blue eyes.
He loved to play and jump and shout,
Free as a bird he would race about
As the years went by he learned and grew
And became a man – as you will too

He was fine and strong, with a boyish smile,
But he seemed to be with us such a short while
When war broke out he went away:
I still remember his face that day,
When he smiled at me and said “Goodbye,
I’ll be back soon Mum, so please don’t cry”.

But the war went on and he had to stay,
And all I could do was wait and pray.
His letters told of the awful fight
(I see it still in my dreams at night)
With tanks and guns
And the cruel barbed wire,
And the mines and bullets, the bombs and fire.

Till at last, at last, the war was won,
“So that’s why we wear a poppy son!”
The small boy turned as if to go,
Then said, “Thanks lady, I’m glad to know,
That really did sound an awful fight,
But, your son, did he come back alright?”

A tear rolled down the faded cheek:
She shook her head but could not speak
I slunk away, feeling sick with shame,
And if you’d been me, you’d have done the same.
For our thanks, in giving, is oft delayed,
Though our freedom was bought – and thousands paid

And so when you see a poppy worn,
Try to think of the heavy burden borne
By those who gave their very all,
When asked to respond to their country’s call:
That we at home, in peace might live.
So wear a Poppy! Remember! Give!


Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: T'iss getting to be that time again. 11 November   T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Icon_minitime26/10/2009, 16:48

It`s a RBL publication..I have a copy on my site along with some of Ciphers poetry.
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Gordon. wrote:
It`s a RBL publication..I have a copy on my site along with some of Ciphers poetry.

Thanks for that, I think someone probably sent it to me at some stage.

Paul.
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Every year we try to get down to the local Cenotaph (not always, especially the last couple of years) and while the crowds are not what I would like to see, what I do see are young families which is heartening.

Of course, every year we get the usual moaning about how the poppy glorifies war (like that ridiculous White Poppy stuff). I used to respond but got sick and tired of the usually uninformed bullcrap that I was met with and now just look at whoever it is spouting such stuff like they're a total idiot (which, of course, they are). I continue to wear my poppy every year...I just wish they stayed put better, that's my only complaint....I really need to invest in a safety-pin and always keep meaning to, of course.
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Stephen Lock wrote:
Every year we try to get down to the local Cenotaph (not always, especially the last couple of years) and while the crowds are not what I would like to see, what I do see are young families which is heartening.

Of course, every year we get the usual moaning about how the poppy glorifies war (like that ridiculous White Poppy stuff). I used to respond but got sick and tired of the usually uninformed bullcrap that I was met with and now just look at whoever it is spouting such stuff like they're a total idiot (which, of course, they are). I continue to wear my poppy every year...I just wish they stayed put better, that's my only complaint....I really need to invest in a safety-pin and always keep meaning to, of course.

You can get a mini metal poppy from the British Legion. You can wear them all year round.
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Unfortunatly ,you can only get the English version at present.but it does. Smile
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PostSubject: Poppy Pins   T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Icon_minitime27/10/2009, 12:47

There are two versions available:-

One is undated, and was the first one of this type to come out.

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Because there are people who collect badges and pins, a dated one is now available. I think that this is the first year.

T'iss getting to be that time again.   11 November Poppy_10

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Not a bad idea.

I don't know whether the various Canadian Legions have considered these or not.

Of course, the cost is more than the current 'straight pin' felt version (well, not felt anymore, some sort of 'fuzz' overlayed on plastic) so the profit margin is reduced, so that'd be a consideration. Plus, I would think, people would be less likely to purchase one each year as is currently the case thereby also affecting the income derived from the annual sale of poppies.

For several weeks before Remembrance Day, various shops carry a Poppy Box on their front counters with a container where people can deposit their donation for the poppy (no set price).

Of course, each year some lowlife steals the Poppy Fund boxes, which never fails to generate a fair amount of outraged news coverage (of course).

Various solutions have been proposed around that, like having a more secured donation box...chained to the counter or something...but the veterans generally feel that visual undermines what the poppy is meant to represent; the hard won freedoms we enjoy due to the sacrifices of those who died in the various wars and engagements.

I like the versions shown here but at the same time would be somewhat loathe to lose the existing poppy even though everyone, myself included, constantly lose them off our lapels every year. The 'up' side of that is people purchase a replacement, so the sales are not 1/1 but more like 3/1 or 4/1, which is a benefit to the Fund. Not a conscious marketing ploy, but an effective one. LOL
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Stephen look at my avatar. That is the Year of Veteran Pin (Canadian) It's been available from the DVA since 2003.
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We Remember Poppy

The above Poppy is sold by the Royal Canadian Legion here in British Columbia .. it is held in place by a pin like the one depicted in Paul's photo. Most of us wear it year round in our lapel, but on Nov 11 we wear it as a centre for the pin type Poppy that invariably falls off.

Len (Ciphers)
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Stephen Lock
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Hardrations wrote:
Stephen look at my avatar. That is the Year of Veteran Pin (Canadian) It's been available from the DVA since 2003.

Ahhhh...of course!!! I've grown so accustomed to your avatar, Hardrations, I don't even pay particular attention to it anymore apart from seeing it as "you". LOL
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Thanks, Len...I do now recall seeing this in the lapels of various Legion vets, of course. Here again is a case of seeing something all the time, not paying particular attention to it after the initial observation, and just sort of assuming it was a "Legion thing"...like a membership pin or some such, not unlike those often worn on the lapels of members of various fraternal organizations like the Elks or Oddfellows or labour unions, or what-have-you (and here I can't say fraternal orgs actually have such 'membership pins' but possibly do....).
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Whilst not strictly connected to B.A.O.R., this badge/pin came into my possession tonight. Many of you will know of the event that has brought this into being. I am sure it will be of interest to our "Sapper" members, and I mean that with the best of intentions.

The purpose behind it - I do not know at the moment, but will endeavour to find out.

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Its possibly connected to the two young Sappers who were murdered at Massereene Barracks in March of this year. Take a close look at the inscription.

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ciphers wrote:
Its possibly connected to the two young Sappers who were murdered at Massereene Barracks in March of this year. Take a close look at the inscription.

Len (Ciphers)

It most certainly is Len, I pass those gates quite often.

Paul.
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That is one impressive pin
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I went into three different businesses today. The first one a builders merchants, had poppies on the counter. I made a donation and took one. None of the staff were wearing one.

In the second one, a well known DIY store which is an anagram of Q & B, they also had poppies at the check outs. Only the security guard was wearing one and possibly he was ex forces?

In the third one an electrical wholesalers, they also had poppies. Again not one member of staff was wearing one.

I know we can't force people to wear one but I was gobsmacked that these things were right in front of them yet they never saw fit to make a small donation and wear one.

Sad, sad and very sad!
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Is part of the reason, for not wearing a poppy, fear of being accused of not being "PC" - I think so in some cases.

Paul.
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I've noticed they seem to be slow on people in general in picking one up this year. And we've just had our 132 death in Afghanistan. One would think that this would be on ones mind.The deaths are slowly getting regulated farther back in the paper. I guess it's the old story. The politicitians get a woodie sending the youngsters off to war and only worry about doing them out of any benefits due them.
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but you shouldn't wear the poppy 'till 1 nov
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arbor wrote:
but you shouldn't wear the poppy 'till 1 nov

Why?
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god all these years i have been doing it wrong!

i suppose the next thing is i will find out i have been taking down my christmas decorations to early
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arbor wrote:
but you shouldn't wear the poppy 'till 1 nov

Would that be, because the military generally gave us a date to put our poppy on the uniform? Something you'd carry on with out thinking about it.

Also something that happens over here. Is that when the Nov 11 service is finished in Ottawa, people leave their poppy on the grave of the Unknown Soldier. Which in turn many people do across Canada by leaving it at the foot of the Cross of Rememberence of where they have the service.
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