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FUGLY
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PostSubject: Daimler Ferret - Info needed please   Daimler Ferret - Info needed  please Icon_minitime14/1/2010, 09:07

Hello all Smile

I am restoring a ferret used by BAOR from 1969 through to 1989 - Have you any pictures of Ferret 02 CC 12

If you have any pic I am prepared to buy a copy or meet expenses.

Ferret 02CC12 swerved with:

3rd Carbiniers 1969 - 1971
Royal Scots DG 1969 - 1973
14/20 Hussars 1973 - 1974
1st RTR 1974 - 1976
13/18 Hussars 1976 - 1982
16 / 5 lancers 1982 - 1986
storage 1987 - 1989
1989 LUDGERSHALL

I have found a picture of a similar vehicle taken on exercise LIONHEART.
02CC12 was a Mark 1/1 (NO TURRET) and had a wire stowage basket fitted over the engine (The brackets are still there).

Any help gratefully acknowledged. If you ever used this vehicle I would love to hear from you, and you would be welcome to come and look over it.

Jim
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Don't forget many Ferrets were used in Cyrus in a non UN role!

Now tell me what's wrong with the gearbox?
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hello

How did you know there was a problem with the gearbox ! ? Or are they all faulty !Apparantly the 1st and 2nd gear brakebands are badly worn , its slipping terribly and will not adjust out. I have some replacements bands and plan to install them as I am assuming that it wont make the problem any worse than it is (famous last words) Any advice for me ?

Cheers
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I was not a Ferret mechanic in the Army (thank god!)

Maybe we have a Reme Ferret VM on the site?

Trouble with the gearbox was mainly the driver(s), they were 'usually' lazy B***ds. Sorry guys!

The Ferret required frequent, if not daily 'pedalling up in ALL gears, if this was NOT carried out the brake bands would slip.

Before you do any expensive and long drawn out work try the Instructions laid down in the EMERs (Army, Workshop Manual), these instructions are on the net.

Apart from some lengthy stripping of bits around the gearbox, then removing top and possibly side covers a few simple special tools are required.


Please, as a side to my notes above.

DO Not check the Fluid Flywheel level with out a suitable filling plug removal tool being tied to your wrist AND stuffing rags around the area to prevent loss of the Filler Plug.
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I tried adjusting it through the pedalling method but it just wouldn't adjust out. I have committed myself to removing the box, I am going to take the opportunity to clean around it and behind it

Sound like you have bitter experience of the "Ferret Fluid Flywheel" lost plug !!

I am off to Bovington to look at all the ferret pics in the library to try and find mine.[/img]
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I have a few photos from Aden, but no REG Nos are visable.

Good luck with your search!
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FUGLY,

A suggestion regarding photos of your ferret.

Taking each Unit in turn, go to Google and see if they have a Unit web page depicting the 'old days.'

Quite often regiments have a section showing lots of photos. You might strike lucky and see your Ferret !
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My Ferret might have served next to yours. Mine was in the 3rd Carabiniers in Munster Germany in sep. 1969. My Ferret is a 1965 MK 2/3
00 EC 55. It was also with the QRIH and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon guards. My records only go to 1971. I would love to find a picture from when it was it service also.
-Chris
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Yep, I was a REME Ferret VM in Aden, long time ago but I don't remember any particular problem with the g/box so long as procedure was followed, each morning kick the pedal some many times to adjust the bands, do remember the excruciating pain though if you didn't push the pedal down properly and it kicked back on a false nutural and jammed your knee under the rim of the drivers hatch.
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Fugly

I did work on Ferrets ( very rarely ) but theres nothing I can add that hasn't been said. If you follow EMERs you should be ok.

Have you tried asking on Noahs Arc..1420h.org or 1420kh.org.I'm sure some of the old'n'bold on there might be able to help with photos etc.
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Hello

Thanks for all the replies . I have spent the afternoon at Bovington Tank Museum (UK) - I could not find a pic of 02CC12 , but did find lots of others .

PM me for a list or email jim@strategicplacements.com

Some great pictures though. Gearbox is coming out tomorrow - new brake band lininmgs - Wish me luck !

Anyone have any photos of 02CC12 Smile ???
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pigdog wrote:
My Ferret might have served next to yours. Mine was in the 3rd Carabiniers in Munster Germany in sep. 1969. My Ferret is a 1965 MK 2/3
00 EC 55. It was also with the QRIH and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon guards. My records only go to 1971. I would love to find a picture from when it was it service also.
-Chris
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John. here(Former 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards). I was att to Recce Troop for a few excersises (have photos) will dig them out.When was your ferret with us? I drove them a lot in all sort of situations,a very fine bit of kit.My best mate(Skins Recce Trp) for sure has photos will contact him today.
Regards John.
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John. here(Former 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards). I was att to Recce Troop for a few excersises (have photos) will dig them out.When was your ferret with us? I drove them a lot in all sort of situations,a very fine bit of kit.My best mate(Skins Recce Trp) for sure has photos will contact him today.
Regards John.[/quote]

This is the info from my ferrets vehicle history card from the tank museum.
DIS july 1965
Nov 1967 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards, weeton, lancashire. Regiment to germany march 1969
Feb 1969 CVD central vehicle depot, Ludgershall, Wiltshire
RVD july 1969 reserve depot
sep. 1969 3rd Carabiniers, Munster Germany
Aug 1970 QRIH paderborn Germany
May 1971 RAOC ABU, Larzac France
Oct 1971 QRIH paderborn Germany
Dec 1971 BVD Germany

Thats all that was on the card. Thanks for looking into this.
-Chris
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Chris.OK I will try to take this further for you.THe Mate I mentioned to you was Recce troop even then at Weeton so we might be lucky!!!Stand by for action.
Regards John.
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Cheers All !

If any ferret photos are available (home snaps, not pics of websites please), please let me know as I have had alot of requests for various vehicles (all ferrets) and I can try to link up the photos with current owners !

cheers

Jim
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alan8376 wrote:
I was not a Ferret mechanic in the Army (thank god!)

Maybe we have a Reme Ferret VM on the site?

Trouble with the gearbox was mainly the driver(s), they were 'usually' lazy B***ds. Sorry guys!

The Ferret required frequent, if not daily 'pedalling up in ALL gears, if this was NOT carried out the brake bands would slip.

Before you do any expensive and long drawn out work try the Instructions laid down in the EMERs (Army, Workshop Manual), these instructions are on the net.

Apart from some lengthy stripping of bits around the gearbox, then removing top and possibly side covers a few simple special tools are required.


Please, as a side to my notes above.

DO Not check the Fluid Flywheel level with out a suitable filling plug removal tool being tied to your wrist AND stuffing rags around the area to prevent loss of the Filler Plug.


Gearbox is now out and on the bench ... (a very strong bench) !!!!
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I have narrowed the search down a bit - The ferret spent a lot of time at HERFORD Barracks with various regiments - if anyone has any pictures of ferrets at Herford , mine might be on it ??

Thanks
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Pigdog...I have been onto my mate(former Recce Troop) Skins.as you mentioned your ferret was at weeton where we were at the time you mentioned..He was there but not then with Recce(sorry I thought he was) he tells me there were only a few ferrets there then.Yours being one of them as you said.He will try else where.OK In the mean time so will I.In the mean time good luck.
Regards John.(former Skins).


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Fugly,

Is your Ferret fitted with a turret? If so, did you have to take it off to facilitate taking the G/box out that way? Or I you taking the engine out as well?

Alan
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FUGLY wrote:
I have narrowed the search down a bit - The ferret spent a lot of time at HERFORD Barracks with various regiments - if anyone has any pictures of ferrets at Herford , mine might be on it ??

Thanks

The greater majority of the units you mentioned in one of your first posts were stationed in Harewood Barracks, Herford, although some of the year spans differ somewhat.

Paul.
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alan8376 wrote:
Fugly,

Is your Ferret fitted with a turret? If so, did you have to take it off to facilitate taking the G/box out that way? Or I you taking the engine out as well?

Alan

Hi

There is not a turret, so it was aesy to take the gearbox up and out . Gearbox is finished now engine coming out next. I had a whold bucketful of mud and soil from under / arouind the gearbox - under the engine should be full as well of rubbish !

regards

Jim
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Paul wrote:
FUGLY wrote:
I have narrowed the search down a bit - The ferret spent a lot of time at HERFORD Barracks with various regiments - if anyone has any pictures of ferrets at Herford , mine might be on it ??

Thanks

The greater majority of the units you mentioned in one of your first posts were stationed in Harewood Barracks, Herford, although some of the year spans differ somewhat.

Paul.
Yes you are quite right , I am focusing on that location. I had an email from an ex hussar who recalls travelling to Ludgershall with others to bring a convoy of Mk2 2 ferrets to Germany, he said they kept 1 mk 1 ferret amongst all the mk 2's . It should reallly stick out like a sore thumb as it also may had had a stowage basket fitted to it. Another Hussar recalls that the german writing on the back panel was an original caution to iother road user that the ferret had no flashing indicators.

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Johnwalker wrote:
Pigdog...I have been onto my mate(former Recce Troop) Skins.as you mentioned your ferret was at weeton where we were at the time you mentioned..He was there but not then with Recce(sorry I thought he was) he tells me there were only a few ferrets there then.Yours being one of them as you said.He will try else where.OK In the mean time so will I.In the mean time good luck.
Regards John.(former Skins).
Hello !

Thanks for trying anyway - when it was with the Hussars they had a RECCE troop and I assume it was also with the same with 1st RTR ?

Thanks for you assistance . I have not given up hope of finding a nice picture yet ! In the meantime I have been trawling through the internet and there are some great photos out there !!

Jim
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Johnwalker wrote:
Pigdog...I have been onto my mate(former Recce Troop) Skins.as you mentioned your ferret was at weeton where we were at the time you mentioned..He was there but not then with Recce(sorry I thought he was) he tells me there were only a few ferrets there then.Yours being one of them as you said.He will try else where.OK In the mean time so will I.In the mean time good luck.
Regards John.(former Skins).

John thanks for looking. Its cool to be able to place my ferret there at the same time as yourself.
-Chris
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