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steve
LE Maj
Number of posts: 430
Age: 63
Localisation: near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge: Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served: Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date: 2010-02-14
| | Subject: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 2/6/2010, 12:29 | |
| The newspaper clip below taken from The Polar Bear News 21 Dec 45 that was printed in Iserlohn for 49 Inf Div units so now can add to the Wikipedia quote "After the war the barracks of the Stalag, renamed to Camp Roosevelt were at first used as a camp for detaining Nazi prisoners. 1947 it was renamed to Casernes Ardennes and were used by the Belgian army till 1955. After the establishment of the German Bundeswehr the barracks became home of a tank battalion in 1957. Originally simply named after its location on the Jüberg hill, it received its final name, Blücher-Kaserne, in 1964" 606 Regt RA was a wartime TA unit but unable to find much about it assumed disbanded when 49 Inf Div was disbanded Oct 46 as it was reformed in UK 1947 Wikipedia in German has a BOAR unit taking over Nov 45 from the US Army and running the camp to Sep 46...any more info out there?  [img] |
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JPW
Lt Col
Number of posts: 396
Age: 71
Localisation: Berkshire
Cap Badge: REME
Places Served: Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date: 2008-11-09
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 3/6/2010, 07:47 | |
| Steve
Read your query with interest but cannot help with any detail
However in Emden at the same time there was a 639 Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment part of 305 Infantry Brigade. The 3xx Infantry Brigades were formed up in the latter stages of the War from surplus Gunner Regiments to carry out Lines of Communication Security tasks thereby releasing Infantry Battalions for more demanding frontline duties. Most were disbanded by late 1945
If you can establish a link between your 606 Regiment and a 3xx Brigade you might be able to tease out further information. |
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steve
LE Maj
Number of posts: 430
Age: 63
Localisation: near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge: Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served: Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date: 2010-02-14
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 3/6/2010, 08:24 | |
| | JPW wrote: | Steve
Read your query with interest but cannot help with any detail
However in Emden at the same time there was a 639 Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment part of 305 Infantry Brigade. The 3xx Infantry Brigades were formed up in the latter stages of the War from surplus Gunner Regiments to carry out Lines of Communication Security tasks thereby releasing Infantry Battalions for more demanding frontline duties. Most were disbanded by late 1945
If you can establish a link between your 606 Regiment and a 3xx Brigade you might be able to tease out further information. |
JPW
Found this website but 606 Regt is not showing attached to a Bde
http://www.ra39-45.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/infidx/index.html
Assuming a roaming unit under 21 Army Group allocated where required and sent to 49 Inf Div HQ Neheim their Bde could be 103 AA Bde who looked after a similar camp at Heiden near Siegen to the south of the Div area
Just received copies of war diaries for the Irish Guards post May 45 so lots to read
Cheers
Steve  |
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Crunchie
Cpl
Number of posts: 15
Age: 49
Localisation: Leigh lancs
Cap Badge: RCT
Places Served: Aldershot, Munsterlager, Minden, Duisburg, Belfast, Falkland Islands, Catterick.
Registration date: 2009-11-25
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 3/6/2010, 21:58 | |
| Steve, my grandfather was Irish Guards during and post WW2. How would I go about obtaining a copy of these important papers. His wife, my grandmother, is 100 years old next month and has always had strong links with the IG due to my uncles also having served. It would be nice to have somthing such as this to give her on her birthday.
Cheers, |
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steve
LE Maj
Number of posts: 430
Age: 63
Localisation: near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge: Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served: Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date: 2010-02-14
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 4/6/2010, 10:06 | |
| Crunchie
Which battalion if 3 Bn have copies of their war diaries Aug - Dec 45 kindly sent by www.ww2guards.com if required please send a PM with your email address
Cheers
Steve |
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Crunchie
Cpl
Number of posts: 15
Age: 49
Localisation: Leigh lancs
Cap Badge: RCT
Places Served: Aldershot, Munsterlager, Minden, Duisburg, Belfast, Falkland Islands, Catterick.
Registration date: 2009-11-25
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 4/6/2010, 21:38 | |
| Many thanks for the e mail Steve, I found a picture of my grandad, taken I think in Hamburg, with other members of 3 IG. |
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Stephen Lock
Maj Gen
Number of posts: 886
Age: 58
Localisation: Calgary
Cap Badge: Pads Brat
Places Served: Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter
Registration date: 2007-12-28
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 5/6/2010, 19:57 | |
| | steve wrote: | The newspaper clip below taken from The Polar Bear News 21 Dec 45 that was printed in Iserlohn for 49 Inf Div units so now can add to the Wikipedia quote
"After the war the barracks of the Stalag, renamed to Camp Roosevelt were at first used as a camp for detaining Nazi prisoners. 1947 it was renamed to Casernes Ardennes and were used by the Belgian army till 1955. After the establishment of the German Bundeswehr the barracks became home of a tank battalion in 1957. Originally simply named after its location on the Jüberg hill, it received its final name, Blücher-Kaserne, in 1964"
606 Regt RA was a wartime TA unit but unable to find much about it assumed disbanded when 49 Inf Div was disbanded Oct 46 as it was reformed in UK 1947 Wikipedia in German has a BOAR unit taking over Nov 45 from the US Army and running the camp to Sep 46...any more info out there? |
As mentioned elsewhere, this site is now the site for the Landesgartenshau and a new, and rather odd looking, tower has been erected on the Jüberg hill. Some of the old barracks remain, of course, and have been converted to offices and such for the garden show (it's apparently a major deal in Hemer each year).
Viewing pics of it as it is now I am struck by two things: One -- they've done a nice job of making it accessible and pleasant for the locals and visitors but Two -- it's difficult for me to overlay my memory of how the old camp looked onto the new version...nothing seems to 'fit'.
Also, as mentioned elsewhere on this, there are some pics over on Flikr, posted by diddidum, which show it as it is now. |
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steve
LE Maj
Number of posts: 430
Age: 63
Localisation: near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge: Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served: Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date: 2010-02-14
| | Subject: Re: No 7 Civil Internment Camp 1945-1946 8/6/2010, 15:36 | |
| As the British were there for a short time will continue to search for more details/photos all I know from the local 'Reservistenkameradaschaft' that the barracks construction was not finished when WW2 started have found that post WW2 the Belgian Army were under command BAOR in the local area and later an Ardennes Brigade existed...waiting for more details...in the meantime have updated the HEMER page
Regards
Steve |
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