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 Support to Veterans living in Germany

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steve
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Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

PostSubject: Support to Veterans living in Germany   12/8/2010, 12:53

We can now use the NAAFI but need to pay the tax will it be worth it?
http://www.bfgnet.de/BFGVets_Naafi.html
Going to apply anyway for the access pass in case there is anything we need
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   12/8/2010, 19:05

Seems a lot of messing about and red tape Steve?
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   12/8/2010, 19:15

Have to agree. They haven't made it easy have they? It's as if they want to dissuade you from partaking, not that NAAFI stocks much in the way of stuff that you can't get in the locals shops. How many Brits really yearn for Daddies Brown Sauce? For what it's worth you may as well buy in bulk when you're next in the UK and take it back with you. The Tesco's stuff that the NAAFI stocks is criticised by the Toms as it's nearly always on or close to (within a day) of its sel buy date. Can you see many (beyond popping in for a cup of tea, a sarnie and a paper) taking up the offer?
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Mike_2817
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   12/8/2010, 23:02

NAAFI prices were always higher than the local shops, and I do not think there is much you would buy anyway, other than an English paper.

Funny thing is! How many ex BAOR bods yearn for Curry Ketchup or Snell Imbasses? More I would think LoL

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Registration date : 2009-02-21

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   13/8/2010, 10:27

steve wrote:
We can now use the NAAFI but need to pay the tax will it be worth it?
http://www.bfgnet.de/BFGVets_Naafi.html
Going to apply anyway for the access pass in case there is anything we need
Cheers
Steve

As (Lt Col) Teabag says it seems to be a lot of red tape for what is really not much of a privilege. As has also been mentioned most of the stuff stocked by NAAFI was cheaper in the local shops where MWS had already been applied.

I am assuming that all this messing about doesn't apply if you are classed as a UK Based Civilian and that UKBCs still get all the concessions that Squaddies get?

Mike
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steve
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   13/8/2010, 10:53

YES! It is going to be a challenge BUT despite being able to get most British things over in Germany...they are now producing a half decent cider…still cannot get decent bacon and tea and our supplies are getting low so needs must…Karin does enjoy her mug of English tea in the morning!
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Steve
PS: Mike UKBCs get the same concessions as squaddies
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Themaadone
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Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   3/9/2010, 18:23

It has been far too long in the making - going to the YMCA on camp used to be a nightmare and other things like that were equally strenuos.

It is a step in the right direction however - how is it the US forces are capable of maintaining their tax free bens when they leave and stay in Germany or the UK - how do their agreements differ - why is our government unable to duplicate these differences in nato agreements or is it a EEU tax thing?
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Mike_2817
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   4/9/2010, 18:11

My UK (Northern England) next door neighbour is ex US Based Civilian, not even US Forces, and gets almost every privilege going at US bases other than tax free petrol, which he gets by the jerrycan anyway!

(Petrol is $2.79 per US Gallon on the base gas station - Thats 74 cents or 48 Pence per Litre!)

US ex-forces in Europe (inc UK, Belgium & Germany) have had this concession since forever, so why not UK ex-forces?

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recymech
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Localisation : Bad Fallingbostel
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Places Served : Bordon, Nuneaton, NI, Paderborn, Poland, Czech Republic, Sennelager, Osnabruck, Canada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Cyprus, Bad Fallingbostel.
Registration date : 2008-06-24

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   5/9/2010, 08:36

Most Garrison towns in BFG have a British shop, I know Paderborn had one and they have one here in Fally, don't people use these? I know you can get most stuff and they'll order in products if you want them. Never used them myself as I'm still serving so just use the NAAFI for ease.
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Registration date : 2009-05-22

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   5/9/2010, 13:40

just as a matter of interest when did fally become a spa town, as in bad fallingbostel.
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Places Served : Gutersloh, Duisburg, Bracht, Rheindahlen. Also Non BAOR, Blackdown, Corsham. Shoeburyness, Ty Croes, Aden, Bicester.
Registration date : 2007-03-10

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   5/9/2010, 16:25

If such concessions were available to British Veterans then the UK or German taxpayers would have to fund the subsidies to cover the differences between the real prices and the reduced ones.

I don`t think taxpayers should have to fork out.
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Number of posts : 81
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Places Served : Bordon, Nuneaton, NI, Paderborn, Poland, Czech Republic, Sennelager, Osnabruck, Canada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Cyprus, Bad Fallingbostel.
Registration date : 2008-06-24

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   5/9/2010, 17:27

dandc wrote:
just as a matter of interest when did fally become a spa town, as in bad fallingbostel.

Bad Fallingbostel is the district town (Kreisstadt) of Soltau-Fallingbostel in the German state of Lower Saxony. Since 1976 the town has had a state-recognised Kneipp spa and has held the title of Bad since 5 August 2002. It has close ties to Walsrode, a few miles to the west.



Sourse: Wikipedia.
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Registration date : 2009-05-22

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   5/9/2010, 21:47

so now i know thankyou.
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steve
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Registration date : 2010-02-14

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   7/9/2010, 16:32

Update on access pass...1st paperwork done and now need to wait circa 10 weeks for the pass then 2nd paperwork to do!

Recymech know about and have used the British Shop in Paderborn...we had one here at the side of the former Hemer NAAFI but no longing trading...just looking for a bit more choice and prepared to pay the MwSt

Goldmohur agree with you tax free discounted goods is not the way forward and for me the pass is to go to the NAAFI for the extras that cannot be found on the German net as not in the UK that often these days...also a UK paper (cost euro 2.50 at airports and railway stations) or a book and perhaps to go to the SKC Cinema when a decent film is on

Cheers
Steve Very Happy
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Themaadone
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Localisation : Near London
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Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   7/9/2010, 16:56

My brother, who never served, lives in Germany. Our Dad obviously did and I was wondering if my brother would be entitled?

The cinemas in Germany have been vastly reduced due to Video/DVD and Sky being, not so legally, available to troops over there - sadly.

After speaking to my brother, there is/was a small shop in Bielefeld but looks like it has ceased trading and the one in Guetersloh is really quite dear - he thinks that being able to buy the odd thing e.g. spices, sauces and especially bacon and suasages would improve his lifestyle no end.... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   7/9/2010, 18:44

Martin
This pass is only available for Veterans and you have to produce your 'Red Book' as proof BUT the holder of the pass can take folks with them (think it is is four) and of course need pay the tax for whatever they want to buy...hope this helps
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PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   7/9/2010, 23:16

There are a number of web sites that will supply british food by post.

Here are just a few of them:

http://www.britsuperstore.com/

http://www.uk-groceries.com/

http://www.britstore.co.uk/

http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/


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Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   8/9/2010, 10:37

Thanks Mike - I've sent him the links which he is scouring through as we speak.
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Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
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Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
Registration date : 2016-12-16

PostSubject: Re: Support to Veterans living in Germany   24/7/2018, 18:00

A link to a catalogue of welfare /support orgs that British Veterans still in Germany (or even back on the island) may like to have - should eventualities arise:

http://artyclerkassn.org/webpages/welfare.htm

nice to re-discover those funds I paid in to (or raised money for) as serving member (Single Soldiers'Dependants Fund, Soldiers' Widows Fund, SSAFA, Army Benevolent Fund) are still there
- and now can pass the links to my nearest and dearest should gthe need arise!
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