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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   17/9/2010, 10:37

Brum thats great! What Shepherds? Are they still leaving them in "country"? I have Belgian Shepherds, but mostly worked with GSD's in narcotics and protection.
I suppose if you become "household" cavalry you don't have to marry girls now days...saw that on the internet pale
Yes Gallipoli what a cock up....though if it had succeeded, it nearly did though!
Ahhhhh you boys and yer curry Mad like a dose of salts to me! Speaking of curries, my Fox passed Ceylon today and is due in Singapore very soon. My father served in Singapore before transfering over to the Aussie Army, I remember bits and pieces but not much...except the Geckos and my mum getting upset with my father for boffing the armaugh! Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   17/9/2010, 10:42

What Iam looking for is the bits and bobs that usually end up in pockets and back packs as well as the backs of vehicles. Keep on the lookout on Mr ebay and sometimes stumble upon bits and pieces of sundry kit.....like foam ear plug defenders LOL Cool
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   17/9/2010, 11:21

Oh well better head off to watch the telly, some BBC murder show is on! The missus likes them ( probabley thinking of using them as a training film LOL).
Good night gents!! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   18/9/2010, 21:54

Hiya Troy,

I was in charge of a Section of 13 men and 6 GSDs for over 3 years.
The dogs were classed as Security and were used to patrol a Garrison in London.
We were trained in the RAVC centre in Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, where they also trained blokes with Guard dogs. (And horses !).
I had Security dogs because of the proximity of civilians.
Although all my dogs were classed as GSD one of them looked different, was more intelligent and a little bastard when doing Man Work. We checked him out and found that in fact he was a Doberman / Labrador cross. A great dog, I wish I had him now.
Three of the best years of my life mate !

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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   18/9/2010, 22:00

handler 69 wrote:
Brum thats great! What Shepherds? Are they still leaving them in "country"? I have Belgian Shepherds, but mostly worked with GSD's in narcotics and protection.
I suppose if you become "household" cavalry you don't have to marry girls now days...saw that on the internet pale
Yes Gallipoli what a cock up....though if it had succeeded, it nearly did though!
Ahhhhh you boys and yer curry Mad like a dose of salts to me! Speaking of curries, my Fox passed Ceylon today and is due in Singapore very soon. My father served in Singapore before transfering over to the Aussie Army, I remember bits and pieces but not much...except the Geckos and my mum getting upset with my father for boffing the armaugh! Suspect

"Boffing the Armah" Troy, is that an Australian Army custom ?
We have things like Trooping the Colour, Mounting the Guard, Beasting the Sprog but that's a new one on me !

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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   18/9/2010, 23:09

Quote :
"Boffing the Armaugh"

My translation of that is "having it off with the maid" Thinks Armaugh may be miss spelt
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   19/9/2010, 09:19

brum wrote:
Hiya Troy,

I was in charge of a Section of 13 men and 6 GSDs for over 3 years.
The dogs were classed as Security and were used to patrol a Garrison in London.
We were trained in the RAVC centre in Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, where they also trained blokes with Guard dogs. (And horses !).
I had Security dogs because of the proximity of civilians.
Although all my dogs were classed as GSD one of them looked different, was more intelligent and a little bastard when doing Man Work. We checked him out and found that in fact he was a Doberman / Labrador cross. A great dog, I wish I had him now.
Three of the best years of my life mate !

brum.

Er . . . sorry gents, that was set up to be a "PM". Don't know what happened there. Sorry to bore you with non - BAOR stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   19/9/2010, 10:43


I think the woofers played a big part in Germany too! Anyway not having much luck with that bloody stable belt, wrote to the PI and haven't recieved a email as of yet! LOL probabley think Iam a bit of a wanker Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   20/9/2010, 11:40

brum

Nigel was too young to marry, his Scottish girl friend might have been Fiona but more likely it was Amanda, Louise or Sarah. She with the long blonde hair, black velvet Alice band and pearls with a demure smile which charmed Nigel's CO but not his wife.

Nigel's real true friend, particularly if he was UK based, was his black labrador called Sam.

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I think you meant Amah (sometimes known as Ayah)
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   20/9/2010, 13:24

Ah yes, the Amah's of Singapore and Hong Kong fame, there were always stories going around about bloke's bonking them. As I was a beanstealer on my tour of HK I never got to prove it one way or the other.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   21/9/2010, 02:27

Thank you for the correction...LOL it was a long time ago...but my mother was convinced of it LOL.
I have read somewhere that black Labs were issued kit to drop short officers Twisted Evil

Has anyone here driven Foxes? OR have a vehicle pennant hidden away somewhere?
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   4/10/2010, 10:05

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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   4/10/2010, 10:13

Hey, nice photo's there mate.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   4/10/2010, 10:43

Thanks for that....still on the ocean wave! LOL
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   26/10/2010, 17:42

hi, i served in the 9/12 royal lancers in omagh,each troop had 2 ferret scout cars,2 landrovers and 1 saracen. there was a scorpion there as i drove it a few times but i cant remember seeing a fox. the scorpion was there for conversion training,it was not allowed anywhere where the civillian population might see it as this might cause panic. when we went to germany, a and c squadron had 2 scorpions and 2 scimitars per troop and b squadron had 8 fox per troop because they were close recce
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   27/10/2010, 11:54

Hi jimbob and welcome mate.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   27/10/2010, 22:02

I am sure i did a bit of work on the fox at 15 field in munster. i seem to remeber we were doing trials on the 'repairability" in the field. shit of a thing to work on from memory
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 01:41

LOL thanks for that, I am having some teething problems with mine at the moment. Got the mechanic coming out today to look at him...starting problems
Jimbob...can you email me at troynicquel@gmail.com please.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 15:17

As far as I can recall, the Fox never served with any regular armoured units, it was farmed out to the Yeomanry (TA), which may explain sightings in NI. The TA in NI weren't employed alongside the regulars there, but continued on with their NATO role. We (the Brits) did try to flog it off to some Arab/North African countries, but as the thing was top heavy and prone to rolling over (there had been a couple of fatalities over the years), there were very few takers. There were a couple of them at Cambrai Bks in Catterick (the old RAC Training School) when SCOTS DG were there and there are photographs of the Fox being used on ceremonial duties for their Tercentenary in Edinburgh. The Ayrshire Yeomanry used to bring them over to BAOR on the large exercises, but I don't recall the vehicle ever having been used by any regular Armoured unit.

There are claims on Wiki that the Fox replaced the Ferret. It didn't. Both vehicles had different roles and the Ferret soldiered on for a lot longer than the Fox.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 16:16

firstly, thanks for the welcome jim next as i said before B sqn 9/12 were close recce which meant that when an armoured brigade would deploy the designated troop from B sqn would go with them even to canada and such places, that is why they had 8 fox per troop. when we were posted to munster, we had to go to Osnabruck to teach driver training to The Kings Own Scottish Borderers as they were having there own recon platoon equipped with 8 fox,that was in 1980.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 16:55

I obviously stand corrected. Here's a link which may shed even more light on the subjact:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/rac/25565-cvr-t-w-best-why.html
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 20:37

If I am right about them being in Munster Jimbob, it must have been about '78/'79.
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   28/10/2010, 21:31

Steve,

It was Exercise 'Crusader 80' that 15Fld Wksp Reme Repair Section were repairing Fox n exercise led by the Tiffy Ian Donald... I think the Repair Section was on Detachment to 1 Br Corps Tp Wksp for that excercise?

Although I was 15 Fld as well. I was spammed on what was a cushy number doing 'Umpire.'

I am not sue whether the Fox under repair were from a BAOR or UK Unit!!

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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   29/10/2010, 06:40

Does your Fox stop and you don't know why confused TRY dead rat and bird nest in the air cleaner Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: 9/12th Lancers and Fox   29/10/2010, 07:41

handler 69 wrote:
Does your Fox stop and you don't know why confused TRY dead rat and bird nest in the air cleaner Shocked

Didn't you say your Fox came from Hong Kong Troy ?

I'm pretty sure a dead rat and a bird's nest is considered a delicacy in that part of the world !
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