Number of posts : 978 Age : 90 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
Subject: Soldiers Pensions 11/9/2010, 17:47
Lets get behind this boys ..
Len (Ciphers) Soldiers' Pensions - More MoD parsimony
For those of you who don't know, Sergeant Matty Telford was killed 3rd Nov2009 by a rogue Afghan Policeman. Now, you will all remember him from the news as Sergeant Matty Telford but the army give his children his pension at Corporal rate because he was a Sergeant for less than a year. The unfairnessof this is that he was promoted so he could do this job in Afghanistan and had he not been promoted he would have been doing a different job and may have been with us today. After this petition was started it came to light that this is happening to a lot of our soldiers' families.
If a soldier was being paid as a sergeant when he was killed, then it seems to me that that should be the basis for his widow's pension. If you agree, please sign.
(In signing the petition you will not be expressing a political opinion on any of the conflicts our servicemen are dispatched to.)
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recymech WOII
Number of posts : 81 Age : 55 Localisation : Bad Fallingbostel Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Bordon, Nuneaton, NI, Paderborn, Poland, Czech Republic, Sennelager, Osnabruck, Canada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Cyprus, Bad Fallingbostel. Registration date : 2008-06-24
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 11/9/2010, 18:23
Signed.
oldtimer WOII
Number of posts : 99 Age : 76 Localisation : Manchester Cap Badge : RCT Places Served : Yeovil, Bunde, Lubbecke,camp du larzac, norway,rct winter training centre hinterstien, Aldershot, Registration date : 2009-09-22
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 11/9/2010, 20:04
what a disgrace. signed
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 11/9/2010, 23:13
Saw that somewhere else to day Len..Signed
ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 90 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 07:04
On Brian Streetly's site Gordon ..
Len (Ciphers)
Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 14:54
signed
Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 73 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 15:26
Bloody pen pushers.
signed.
Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 16:46
It has always been the case since 1975 (AFPS75) that the pension scheme paid for the 2 highest years substansive rank in the last 5 years of service for OR's, and unfortunately that applied to the Widows Pensions as well, and a few cases were highlighted over the years. I agree 100% that it is wrong and should be looked at again in light of currant operational circumstances.
Duly signed, but hold out little hope of any further change, as the new AFPS05 now says a year... But sould be abolished all together for 'Killed in service'
_________________ Sua Tela Tonanti
jerry WOI
Number of posts : 186 Age : 83 Localisation : Abergele Cap Badge : RASC/RCT Places Served : Dortmund/Hameln/ Malaya FARELF Marchwood Aldershot Yeovil Registration date : 2008-10-04
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 19:22
Signed
whitehorse660 SSgt/CSgt
Number of posts : 63 Localisation : wiltshire Cap Badge : RMP Places Served : Herford, Werl (twice), Berlin, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Sennelager. Registration date : 2009-11-23
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 12/9/2010, 21:30
Signed.
Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1070 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 13/9/2010, 04:25
Now some pen pusher here in DND HQ's in Ottawa is going to see this and think it's a great idea for our lads on active service.
Signed
jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 13/9/2010, 10:06
already signed.
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Preserved Pensions 21/11/2020, 02:50
Pensions, Preserved Pensions - seems some have not claimed? Perhaps believing pay out would be automatic. It isn't - if you have entitlement you have to claim. Lump sum is 3 times annual rate (tax free) at the point the pension goes in to issue, and then a regular somewhat indexed link monthly (in arrears) pay out:
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Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Service Pensions (Officers or Soldiers) 10/6/2021, 18:58
Everyone's Pension Matters
Armed Forces Pension Scheme reached me with their "AFPS Quarterly Digest" - they still haven't got to me with the Veterans' ID Card - suspect it will be nailed on my box where the 3rd ID Disc should go!
However, of essential interest to those drawing an AFPS pension - this year's increase looks to be 0.5 % - just a ha'penny in the pound! Spend it wisely chaps! or donate it - you won't miss it!
BUT I get the Newsletter because I have claimed Preserved Pension or at least spoken/written to the Veterans UK so they have my address (have had three moves since leaving the Colours), arrangements can be made for homeless vets to be given contact address - get known homeless vets to speak to nearest Regt Association or RBL or Vets Org
And those who have not claimed yet? (In some circmstances, best discussed with the help desk, late applications might be backdated). "Veterans approaching pension age (or who have not yet CLAIMED) should use AFPS Form 8 around 3 months BEFORE reaching pension age: NOTE: Under AFPS 75 at age 60 Under AFPS 05 at age 65 Under AFPS 15 at UK State Pension age (67?)
and when your preserved pension starts there is also a lump sum coming in at THREE times the annual rate of pension (UK tax free)
From the form claimants can see arrangements can be made for people without Bank/Building Society accounts, for homeless veterans and/or for those living outside UK
Help is available from JPAC Enquiry Centre on (UK callers) 0800 085 3600, or 0044 141 224 3600 if calling from abroad - you will need your National Insurance Number, and Service Number for reference.
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Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Applying for Forces' Pensions 25/11/2021, 19:03
Applications for Army Pensions - see here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/veterans-uk-armed-forces-pensions-forms#opting-inout-of-the-armed-forces-pension-scheme
and for those with Preserved Pension Rights (you have to apply and keep the Pension Office up to date with your valid address/bank arrangements)
Once you are in receipt of a Pension you can register for the Forces Discount Scheme - even before the Veteran's ID Card arrives!
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 10/1/2022, 19:49
Addendum: Make sure Veterans who have no Bank Account or Fixed Home Address or are otherwise off the Grid, are aware that alternative arrangements can be made :
Am I owed a pension? Initially, individuals had to serve for five years and be at least age 26 to qualify. From April 1988, qualification period reduced to two years paid service from age 18 (21 for Officers).
The only veterans who will never receive pensions are those who:
Left before April 1975 without an immediate pension. Only served for a very short time. Transferred their preserved pensions out of the AFPS. Served on gratuity earning terms rather than pensionable terms. Forfeited their pension for disciplinary reasons. (check this last condition; some changes in 2022)
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Pensions and Preserved Pensions/Compensation 17/10/2023, 15:34
Soldier's Pension.
Preserved Pensions [/b]- seems some have not claimed? Shocked Perhaps many believe pay out would be automatic. (Pension Office won't know where you are)
It isn't an automatic payout - if you have entitlement you have to CLAIM! Lump sum is 3 times annual rate (UK tax free) at the point the pension goes in to issue, and then a regular indexed link monthly (in arrears) pay out.
For retired UK soldiers, Equiniti (EQ) administers payment of all Armed Forces Pensions on behalf of VeteransUK, once your entitlement (ie you have claimed) is established and input Bank Account/Building Society Account is established.
If you telephone, fax or email EQ, they may need to reply by post - so include a snail-mail contact address. EQ - Communications Centre: UK: 0345 121 2514 or if you are calling from Overseas: 0044 2079 495 022
available Mon to Fri 0800 to 1800 hrs (UK local time) (an email address for queries (not data exchange) is: veteransukpensions@equiniti.com
Make sure you have your EQ Reference number, yr Service Number, & National Insurance Number and (if possible) a daytime telephone number. EQ aim to respond to your enquiry within ten working days. You must tell* EQ: If you change your name, address, bank or building society details in writing or by phone. NEVER by email. If the receiving account is overseas changes can only be accepted in writing.
EQ is at : Equiniti, PO Box 1246, Sutherland House, Russell Way, CRAWLEY; RH10 0HZ
if EQ find your data is not up-to-date they may stop your payments and hold your money in trust until entitlement is confirmed.*
Useful info on the Pension/Compensation schemes at: https://www.gov.uk/pensions-and-compensation-for-veterans[/color] and AFPS_family_benefits_1975_explained PDF (assets.publishing.service.gov.uk) - your widow/dependant child could get a lump sum!
Mailpoint 480 at Kentigern House, Glasgow - send out "Life Certificate" enquiries every few years to ascertain if the Pension recipient is still alive and entitled! They give you 60 working days from the letter date, to answer or the pension will be suspended! (My latest Life Cert took a month from Glasgow to here in Germany - so feel pressured to get my signature witnessed!)
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Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Soldier's Pen sion - If you don't Claim, you won't get! 10/12/2023, 01:29
Soldiers Pensions see foregoing script- some contact details updated Dec 2023
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 653 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: Soldiers Pensions 28/2/2024, 10:15
AFPS 75
Further information related to the Armed Forces Pension Schemes can be found on the Gov.uk website at the following link – https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pensions-and- compensation-for-veterans