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ciphers



Number of posts: 149
Age: 76
Localisation: Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada
Cap Badge: Royal Signals
Places Served: Catterick - BAOR (Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date: 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:56 pm

Could also stand for War Substantive (Sgt/Cpl) .. Lance Cpl is an appointment not a rank so would not carry the prefix. I was Paid A/Cpl (Acting) A/Sgt (Acting) .. after probationary term my rank changed to S/Cpl, S/Sgt (Substantive).

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Registration date: 2009-04-08

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:48 pm

Thanks again for your comments

I thought i should post a photo of his medals too

The information i seek is out there on the internet but im not willing to pay for any registration fee just yet before i converse with the right people like yourselves

Yes Gordon a training course inspection, but where? what regiment(mixed i guess)? what date exactly(i think between 44/47)?

thanks for the links Wrinkles, W/cpl might be Lance corporal as this link shows http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-4287900

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Localisation: Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada
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Places Served: Catterick - BAOR (Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date: 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:15 am

David, are the medals previously posted the ones you mention above .. because there is a duplicate 1939/45 star included and only one is issued to an individual ..

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PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:02 am

Len, the photo of the medals are all I have, one of the stars is probably from grandads friend i dont know the name of but i can find out, there are some other papers ive yet to include on here

the national archives has some interesting information & the imperial war museum, i should also mention that quite a few family members have served in the army, a great uncle was in the Irish guards surname Cunnah' my cousin Lee served in the gulf and is still in active duty, another cousin surname Glynn is with the marines, I like to keep record of these things my main hobby is ancestry i have a tree on ancestry.co.uk

Thanks again for the information

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Places Served: England (Harrogate,Caterick x7 & Blandford..West Germany (Herford)(and the rest of...}),Singapore (Changi & Tanglin) and lots more
Registration date: 2008-02-28

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:52 am

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Could also stand for War Substantive (Sgt/Cpl) .. Lance Cpl is an appointment not a rank so would not carry the prefix. I was Paid A/Cpl (Acting) A/Sgt (Acting) .. after probationary term my rank changed to S/Cpl, S/Sgt (Substantive).

Len


If i recall correctly there were,Local:Acting:Paid and Unpaid ranks or a combination of them,and substantive.The only prefix i ever saw in use was A/ for acting
Did you actually use the S/ Len? I would have thought it would have caused confusion with Staff Sergeant S/Sgt.
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PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:13 pm

Regarding the w/ My thoughs are that the original was L/CPL badly written, and someone with very little knowlege changed it to W/
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Number of posts: 149
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Localisation: Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada
Cap Badge: Royal Signals
Places Served: Catterick - BAOR (Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date: 2008-06-30

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:00 pm

No Gordon, the 'S' was not normally used but on occasion it was such as Regimental Part 1 and 3 orders, or on your Regimental Conduct Sheet where the prefix 'A' (Acting) or 'S' (Substantive) was a guide to the Officer when dishing out punishment. For instance a Capt or a Major could strip an Acting rank but not a Substantive rank, that was generally by higher command. I know, I've been there ....

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Places Served: Hannover, Bielefeld, Camp Borden, Camp Petawawa, CFB Kingston, Korea, Soest, Cyprus, Lahr.
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PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:10 pm

The RASC had two main functions supply and transport,those in the supply trades butchers ,storemen,bakers etc had S/before their regimental numbers,drivers were T/, there were also administrative clerks but I can't remember if they had a prefix,but I do believe that they were S/ also because they worked in the accounting of rations and POL products.
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Cap Badge: RASC / RCT / AAC / RAOC / RLC
Places Served: UK / NI, BAOR, South Arabia, Singapore +
Registration date: 2009-03-30

PostSubject: Re: R.A.S.C 1944   Sat May 09, 2009 5:52 pm

TonyE wrote:
The RASC had two main functions supply and transport,those in the supply trades butchers ,storemen,bakers etc had S/before their regimental numbers,drivers were T/, there were also administrative clerks but I can't remember if they had a prefix,but I do believe that they were S/ also because they worked in the accounting of rations and POL products.


Copied from the RAOConline website >>>>

Remount - The department which procured and issued horses for the Army (Transfered to the RAVC in 1965)
Supply - Dealt with all supplies. (Transfered to the RAOC in 1965)
Transport - Provided all the Army's transport requirements except those catered for by-
Mechanical Transport - the motorised branch of the Transport section.
(Remainder formed the RCT in 1965 along with Maritime & Trains from the RE)

These four branches had the prefixes R, S, T or M respectively.

M/1 and M/2 prefixed men were in Mechanical Transport as electricians and fitters. M/2 could also be used as drivers.

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