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Tony Miller
WOII
WOII



Number of posts : 76
Age : 73
Cap Badge : RCT
Places Served : Bielefeld,Osnabruck,Leibenau,Munsterlager
Registration date : 2010-10-03

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PostSubject: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 12:16

Hi Guys,

Recently started a new topic" Boy soldiers". Some great comments and memories. The question of Barrack room damages cropped up several times. Basically Ithink we all agree they were bollocks. Do they still have them today? Personnaly I think they were illeagal, like some bank charges that have recently been highlighted in the press. Shall we Sue en mass? Question king
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Teabag
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Teabag


Number of posts : 960
Age : 72
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 14:13

Can't really remember them but I do remember having to "volunteer" some of my pay for the wedding of Anne and some git from a cavalry regiment. Don't think it lasted though! As an anti royal, do you think I could sue for my money back especially as they got divorced?
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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 14:38

Ah Teabag!!!you should be very proud to have been given the opportunity to contribute to your C in Cs wedding pressie. Very Happy

Alas i was out by then and didn`t get the opportunity..Damn Damn Damn Wink

BTW What did you get her?
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Shelldrake
FM
FM
Shelldrake


Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 15:48

The other 'Con' that I remember was contributing 1 days pay annually to Regimental Subscriptions, this was supposed to help those less well off than yourself - I never met anyone less well off then me!!
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Tony Miller
WOII
WOII



Number of posts : 76
Age : 73
Cap Badge : RCT
Places Served : Bielefeld,Osnabruck,Leibenau,Munsterlager
Registration date : 2010-10-03

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PostSubject: Barrack Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 16:20

Hi Teabag,
Yes matey your right. I remember having to make a donation as well. Never even got an invitation to the wedding.

PS..Message to all members of this site I will be retiringin 4 years if anyone would like to make a donation to Dustys retirement fund please pass it onto teabag for onward transmission to me. Twisted Evil
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brum
FM
FM



Number of posts : 2808
Age : 82
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 16:49


Hallo Teabag, this is brum.

Reference Dusty's Retirement Fund

Go forth and multiply, I say again Go forth and multiply

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Teabag
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Teabag


Number of posts : 960
Age : 72
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 17:32

brum wrote:

Hallo Teabag, this is brum.

Reference Dusty's Retirement Fund

Go forth and multiply, I say again Go forth and multiply

Over

Roger, fetching Sunray, wait out!
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brum
FM
FM



Number of posts : 2808
Age : 82
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 17:37

Gordon. wrote:
Ah Teabag!!!you should be very proud to have been given the opportunity to contribute to your C in Cs wedding pressie. Very Happy

Alas i was out by then and didn`t get the opportunity..Damn Damn Damn Wink

BTW What did you get her?

Something phallic and battery powered would've been apt, methinks.
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Stephen Lock
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Stephen Lock


Number of posts : 937
Age : 69
Localisation : Calgary
Cap Badge : Pads Brat
Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter
Registration date : 2007-12-28

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 18:33

brum wrote:
Gordon. wrote:
Ah Teabag!!!you should be very proud to have been given the opportunity to contribute to your C in Cs wedding pressie. Very Happy

Alas i was out by then and didn`t get the opportunity..Damn Damn Damn Wink

BTW What did you get her?

Something phallic and battery powered would've been apt, methinks.

Ooooh Shocked I can't for the life of me imagine what on earth brum is going on about.....ohhhhhhh, one of THOSE Wink b..b...but, what did you get for HER??? I think a silver-handled riding crop would have come in quite handy....keep that husband she had in line a bit better, hmmmmm? (ow! Thank you, ma'am....ow! Yes ma'am!!)
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Tony Miller
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WOII



Number of posts : 76
Age : 73
Cap Badge : RCT
Places Served : Bielefeld,Osnabruck,Leibenau,Munsterlager
Registration date : 2010-10-03

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PostSubject: Dustys Fund   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime2/11/2010, 19:04

Sheldrake I say you are a better fundraiser than Teabag. Your hired he is retired. Twisted Evil
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jim
Let Gen
Let Gen
jim


Number of posts : 1291
Localisation : Sutton Coldfield
Cap Badge : RAOC
Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 16:21

I recall having to pay Barrack damages in Basic, but not after that.
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JPW
Let Gen
Let Gen



Number of posts : 1119
Age : 81
Localisation : Berkshire
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf
Registration date : 2008-11-09

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 19:10

Never mind about Barrack room damages how about MQ March Out charges?

Many Barracky Bills seem to see this as a licence to print money. Holes in the wall where pictures had been hung ( unless you were quick with the toothpaste), and kitchen utensils which had to be shinier than a Guardsman's best boots were favourites for fines if memory serves me right
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Shelldrake
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FM
Shelldrake


Number of posts : 3048
Localisation : Camberley
Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 19:20

Oh dear, I had an idea that Barrack Damages might lead to this. I have to confess that I am a Barracky Bill so will sit back and listen to your tales of woe before I put in my plea of mitigation. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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alan8376
Brig
Brig



Number of posts : 682
Age : 75
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 19:39

I had a mate in the dept who renewed MQ cookers. I obtained a set of grill trays etc. This set was in daily use. The originals were kept as per March In ready to March Out.

If I am correct! We also has a spare set of our own pans etc.

I remember my first March In. We had so much to sign for in those days.

What p****ed me off was the scabby tricks some the BIS??? guys insisted on for payment. Excuse for a small mark on a mattress or on a chair or back of a carpet. I heard quite alot about guys being Invoiced for a complete mattress despite it being registered as damage from previous person Marching Out.
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Teabag
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Teabag


Number of posts : 960
Age : 72
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 20:26

Only ever got excellent on march outs and was let off with loads of stuff that could have cost me dear so no complaints for me. In one case, my wife accidently managed to get bleach on a new carpet so tried to clean it. The carpet totally changed colour to a sickly yellow. I was let off with £2 something which was a bargain.

I do admit to sanding down and re varnishing a coffee table that we mucked up and repainting some walls that the kids drew on. Never understood why they never noticed our flat was a different colour to all the others. lol!
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Tony Miller
WOII
WOII



Number of posts : 76
Age : 73
Cap Badge : RCT
Places Served : Bielefeld,Osnabruck,Leibenau,Munsterlager
Registration date : 2010-10-03

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PostSubject: MQ Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime3/11/2010, 22:15

Ye your right there. They always used to find a stain on the matres! Twisted Evil
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Teabag
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
Teabag


Number of posts : 960
Age : 72
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime4/11/2010, 09:43

Tony Miller wrote:
Ye your right there. They always used to find a stain on the matres! Twisted Evil

No comment! Wink
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jim
Let Gen
Let Gen
jim


Number of posts : 1291
Localisation : Sutton Coldfield
Cap Badge : RAOC
Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime4/11/2010, 11:25

We were lucky and always got an good march out as well, we did have to pay once for a missing spoon, god knows what happened to that.
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Themaadone
Maj
Maj
Themaadone


Number of posts : 270
Localisation : Near London
Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC
Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime5/11/2010, 10:55

I had a buckshee spoon on final march out LOL
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jim
Let Gen
Let Gen
jim


Number of posts : 1291
Localisation : Sutton Coldfield
Cap Badge : RAOC
Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime5/11/2010, 11:38

Oh so your the one to blame then. Smile
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Themaadone
Maj
Maj
Themaadone


Number of posts : 270
Localisation : Near London
Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC
Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime5/11/2010, 13:17

To be honest, I never got billed. My Dad was well known as an ASA and so I had the inside man if you like.

All in all, the items I did keep, pots, knifes and forks etc are still going strong!
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ChrisP
WOI
WOI
ChrisP


Number of posts : 100
Localisation : Kent, UK
Cap Badge : RAMC
Places Served : Sennelager, Mil Wing MPH, Ditton, Hohne, Sennelager(again), Newcastle and Rheindahlen
Registration date : 2010-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime5/11/2010, 14:13

My worst MQ handover was Rheindahlen when I got billed for an untidy garden - which was covered in snow!! Clearly the wrong type of snow! Also got billed for a small stain on a carpet that the MQ guy had done at a party of mine and I hadn't noticed!! Told me he knew it had happened and wondered how I would deal with it. Lucky I was marching out or he would have been off my Xmas card list!!
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Geeneff
Cpl
Cpl



Number of posts : 11
Age : 67
Localisation : Staffordshire
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Aldershot, Catterick, York, Blandford, PJHQ Northwood, Stafford, Corsham, Londonderry, Episkopi, Fort Bragg NC, Celle, Herford, Osnabruck, Krefeld, Lippstadt, Elmpt, Sarajevo, Saudi, Namibia, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2011-02-13

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime13/2/2011, 20:58

Barrack Damages were a collective charge for losses or damage which could not be attributed to an individual or group. They were used to recover the costs of such things as broken windows, missing sink plugs and that perpetual loss, cutlery from the cookhouse prior to an exercise. I've levied these collective charges myself when a QM, but they are illegal and the practise is no longer used. All MOD establishments are now managed under multi activity contracts, prime contracts or Pay As You Dine, and these costs are built into the contracts.
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Dolmetscher
WOI
WOI
Dolmetscher


Number of posts : 130
Age : 88
Localisation : Bedfordshire
Cap Badge : RAPC
Places Served : Devizes, HMS Ariel, Winchester, Mönchen-gladbach, Osnabrück, N. Ireland, Ashton-u-Lyne
Registration date : 2010-11-07

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime16/2/2011, 05:36

In Northern Ireland, In the sixties, I was allocated a bungalow in Lambeg. Lovely place, Rayburn cooker in the kitchen etc, fields at the back full of rabbits, fishing in the Lagan just a short distance away. Heaven. However, when I took it over, among the items I signed for was a boxed Dalton 32 piece dinner service. I put this expensive item in a cupboard and it wasn't brought out until I had my marching out inspection. Lo and behold, one of the dinner plates was cracked. I was made to pay for a replacement service, but didn't get to keep the old one, which now I think about it, was legally mine. Cost me £11, a lot of money when my pay was only about £14 a week. They probably kept the dinner service for the next poor sod.
Never forgot that.
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ciphers
Maj Gen
Maj Gen
ciphers


Number of posts : 978
Age : 89
Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton)
Registration date : 2008-06-30

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PostSubject: Re: Barrack Room Damages   Barrack Room Damages Icon_minitime16/2/2011, 06:19

Not BAOR but Barrack Damages related ... in 1951 at Somme Lines, Catterick upon Pass Out and prior to posting to trades schools we were required to hand in all locally drawn non issue kit. China mugs were for some reason issued to us even though we were issued with enamel ones as well. Upon handing the mugs in 90% or them were classified as damaged and we were expected to dib up for them. The course before us revolted and decided to smash them en- masse at their last breakfast. We were the next course to complete Basic Training and we continued with the new 'tradition' .. at our last breakfast we all hurled our mugs at the cookhouse wall and cheerfully payed up. It was a short lived revolt as I heard from a couple of buddies that about a month later china mugs were no longer issued. One small step for man and a QM scam nipped in the bud.

Len (Ciphers)
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