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| John Walker - Russian Cemetary | |
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ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 26/3/2016, 15:55 | |
| On behalf of John Walker - Len (Ciphers) Of course what you should have done John is call out a Scaley Field Line Det. Len - Gents. Thought I would post these photos up. You see here photos of a very good friend of mine WO 11 Dave Holland RDG and myself. I was visiting The Regt and Dave asked me had I ever been to The Russian war cemetery about 30 mins drive from York Barracks.Munster. No Sir I have not. OK so he very kindly arranges a trip out for me. Off we go the next morning, he and I and of course the driver . As we get into the wooded area where this cemetery is I note there had been a lot of rain over the previous days. Just before the fenced off cemetery I see the driver is about to go though a very large deep hole. Whoa !!! I say that is not going to work. I said this as I do have to say I feel I am a good cross country driver and could see the problem ahead !!. Now with respect the driver was quite new at the job and said he would chance it. OK I say but you will have a problem !!! THE REST IS HISTORY. In it went.........and that is where it stayed. David teled the REME(LAD) for help. OK they would be there ASAP. In the meantime a German Officer (Army) was passing in a German Army jeep. He could see the problem and said he would help. I kid you not within about 20 mins two German Army tricks came and sorted out the situation. In the meantime David took me to the Russian Cemetery where I payed my respects. Must say a very sad place. I will not dwell on the story as to why this cemetery is there. Many of you will know anyway. So as you will see The German Army got us out and all was well. The German Officer said it was also good experience for his Soldiers too. David then cancelled the REME call out. So back to Camp. Up to the wash down. Pleased to say no damage to the L/Rover only the drivers pride was hurt. Over all was a good experience for us all. Thank you David Sir. Photo 4 = WO-11 D Holland and myself...not really too worried ! A few more photos tomorrow showing The German Army truck etc. Regards to all looking in. John. ---------------------------------------------- | |
| | | Johnwalker WOII
Number of posts : 98 Age : 84 Localisation : Oxford.U.K. Cap Badge : OX2 9BU Places Served : B.A.O.R. Uk. Aden. Libya. + Registration date : 2010-01-12
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 27/3/2016, 19:57 | |
| Gents............1st I thank Len as always.
Photo 3 = WO 11 David Holland RDG.
Has anyone on this site been to this location as I should like to hear your comments please. As I said very sad place and not many do know of it.I wonder why !!!I do !!
In the mean time A very Happy Easter to you all.
John & Family. Oxford. | |
| | | ciphers Maj Gen
Number of posts : 978 Age : 91 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 27/3/2016, 20:00 | |
| I was in Munster for two years John, 1952/54 and never heard of it. | |
| | | Johnwalker WOII
Number of posts : 98 Age : 84 Localisation : Oxford.U.K. Cap Badge : OX2 9BU Places Served : B.A.O.R. Uk. Aden. Libya. + Registration date : 2010-01-12
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 27/3/2016, 20:04 | |
| Len............Roger that........... This is what I mean........................ Do they not want people to know of it !!!!
I will leave it at that for the Mo.I have tried all sorts of sites to get the facts to post on here before I tell you my version just to be sure. Can any one help please.
Photo 3 = as I said is WO 11 D Holland and standing by The Cemetery gate.
Regards John. | |
| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 28/3/2016, 09:51 | |
| John
A fascinating anecdote, I too spent three years in Munster but never heard of this graveyard. Presumably it must contain the unidentified bodies of Russian POW who were used as slave labourers in the area during WW2. | |
| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 31/3/2016, 21:09 | |
| John
Forgot to ask, trust your driver paid the customary fine of a crate of beer to the recovery crew rescuing his bogged vehicle. | |
| | | Johnwalker WOII
Number of posts : 98 Age : 84 Localisation : Oxford.U.K. Cap Badge : OX2 9BU Places Served : B.A.O.R. Uk. Aden. Libya. + Registration date : 2010-01-12
| | | | Pborn3 WOI
Number of posts : 134 Age : 77 Localisation : Porta Westfalica Cap Badge : RA Places Served : Oswestry, Paderborn, Barnard Castle, Catterick, NI, Bristol, Cyprus, Munsterlager, NI,Sennelager , NI , Rge Control/STC Sennelager/ GSU Sennelager as Civvy Registration date : 2013-09-23
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 1/4/2016, 01:35 | |
| Münster is the Garrison town of the German /Netherlands Corps - so lots of troops, and transport around. The Stadt Münster makes no secret of their War Graves and the Stadt has won prizes for the layout, appearance and high maintenance effort at their cemeteries - Lauheide especially. Commonwealth War Graves Commission looks after British Graves in Münster and there are number of places where other nations troops, prisoners, forced labourers and Displaced Persons are buried : http://www.stadt-muenster.de/umwelt/friedhoefe/kriegsgraeber.htmlKriegsgräber (War Graves) befinden sich auf den folgenden Friedhöfen: (Apologies if tabulation doesn't work out but essentially one cemetery per line!)Friedhof Anzahl der Kriegsgräber Nationalitäten der TotenWaldfriedhof Lauheide 1135 Deutsche, Polen, Niederländer, Belgier, Ungarn, Rumänen, Franzosen, Jugoslawen, Serben, Kroaten, Tschechen, Litauer, UDSSR/Russen, Unbekannte Haus Spital, Am Gievenbach 816 UDSSR/Russen Zentralfriedhof, Robert-Koch-Straße 574 Deutsche Ehrenfriedhof Dorbaum, Standortübungsplatz Handorf 150 UDSSR/Russen Hiltrup, Friedhofstraße 23 Deutsche, Polen, UDSSR/Russen Angelmodde, Alt Angelmodde 12 Deutsche, Polen, Niederländer, UDSSR/Russen Nienberge, Altenberger Straße 12 Deutsche, Polen, Ukrainer Albachten, Dülmener Straße 11 Deutsche Mecklenbecker Friedhof, Dingbängerweg 59 11 Deutsche, Kroaten Ehrenfriedhof Gasselstiege 10 Deutsche Roxel, Tilbecker Straße 8 Deutsche, Polen, Unbekannte Amelsbüren, Davertstraße 7 Deutsche, Polen, Niederländer, Belgier,DSSR/Russen Sprakel, Haselstiege 4 Deutsche Kommunaler Friedhof Wolbeck, Eschstraße 33 2 Deutsche Kommunaler Friedhof Angelmodde, Homannstraße 58 1 Unbekannter Gelmer, Fuestruper Straße 1 Pole other links (in German) http://www.stadt-muenster.de/fileadmin//user_upload/stadt-muenster/67_umwelt/pdf/friedhoefe/lauheide_broschuere.pdfhttp://www.stadt-muenster.de/umwelt/friedhoefe/waldfriedhof-lauheide.html740 British Graves from Spring 1945 Betreuung des Englischen Friedhofs (Münster Heath War Cemetery): Commonwealth War Graves Commission, Northern Europe Area, Elverdingsestraat 82, 8900 Ieper/Belgien (ie Index of names) 164 Soviet Graves where names are known chiselled into commemorative stone 77 Polish Graves | |
| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 1/4/2016, 08:41 | |
| John
Was it the Dorbaum site. this would explain the presence of the German officer and his vehicles? | |
| | | Johnwalker WOII
Number of posts : 98 Age : 84 Localisation : Oxford.U.K. Cap Badge : OX2 9BU Places Served : B.A.O.R. Uk. Aden. Libya. + Registration date : 2010-01-12
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 1/4/2016, 09:36 | |
| JPW.
Roger the above.Thank you. I had a email yesterday from a former 5th Dragoon friend saying just that ...Dorbaum area. But I still await a call from my friend The SSM who I was with at the time.(see the above photos). Will up-date. I also thank Pborn3 above.......some very interesting facts there.
Regards to all looking in.
John. | |
| | | Johnwalker WOII
Number of posts : 98 Age : 84 Localisation : Oxford.U.K. Cap Badge : OX2 9BU Places Served : B.A.O.R. Uk. Aden. Libya. + Registration date : 2010-01-12
| Subject: Re: John Walker - Russian Cemetary 4/4/2016, 12:35 | |
| Gents.
I have just spoken on the Tele to the former SSM who was The I/c Party on the day. He says almost sure It was The Dorbaum Area. Good of him really to call back as he is 6,000 miles away at the moment.
Anyway hope that clears this up. I did hear that a few Russian Officers were shot by /////////// and are buried there along with others. Those being ..POW's.May they all RIP. Maybe we will hear more !!.
Regards to all looking in.
John. | |
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