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PJR
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PostSubject: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime18/3/2021, 21:47

If trying to find any information on my Grandfather, his time in Germany or the 53 Civil Mixed Depot.

Many thanks

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Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes
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Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012)
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PostSubject: Roman Nasko   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 02:48

The "Westward Ho" Operation was a UN Organised project  in these UN Files from 1946 -49.
S0406-
0001         /British Zone Headquarters 01/06/1946 30/06/1947
S-0406-
0001-01     BZ/HQ/ADM - Administration - 589 - Westward Ho Operation

01/04/1947 30/06/1947 Unclassified No
S-0406-
0001-02      BZ/HQ/ADM - Administration - 590 -
British Zone Authority Passes
01/02/1947 31/05/1947 Unclassified No
S-0406-
0001-03
BZ/HQ/ADM - Administration - 591 -
Married Families in Germany
01/01/1947 31/05/1947 Unclassified No
S-0406-
0001-04
BZ/HQ/CR - Communications and
Records - 306 - Cable Procedure
01/11/1946 30/06/1947 Unclassified No
S-0406-
0001-05
BZ/HQ/CR - Communications and
Records - 307 - Correspondence
Procedure
01/01/1947 30/06/1947 Unclassified No
S-0406-
0001-06
BZ/HQ/CR - Communications and
Records - 308 - Telephones
01/06/1946 01/06/1946 Unclassified No
Op Westward Ho  


S-1450-
0000-
0195
Employment of Displaced Personss
in Great Britain - Operation Westward Ho
01/01/1944 31/12/1948 Unclassified No

employment records are here:

S-1450-0000-0194 Employment of Displaced Persons to Assist Labor Shortages
01/01/1944 31/12/1948 Unclassified No



https://www.jstor.org/stable/2172427?seq=1

Your grandfather would have been at one of the Displaced Persons Camps  in Osnabrück:
http://www.dpcamps.org/dpcampsGermanyo.html
https://www.imis.uni-osnabrueck.de/forschung/1_migrationsregime/displaced_persons.html

53 Civil Mixed Depot was an employment unit that the BR Army operated pending the onward movement of DPs who were in their labour force.  Work tasks concentrated on the daily routine of the  DP Camp - providing food, removing waste, transporting people,

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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 16:35

Hi, and Welcome,

Could you tell me the Nationality of Roman and the country he was living in in the mid 1950's please?



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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 17:41

Alan. In the mid 50s he was in England as part of operation Westward Ho! ..... which means he was discharged back to Munster 47/48
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 18:03

Hi, Can I presume Roman was Ukranian?

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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 18:29

Alan that is a good question, on his dp card. It states Poland. But I'm guess looking through some of the archives suggested. The part he was from was Poland is now Ukraine. So I'm guessing he didn't want to be repatriated under soviet rule
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Number of posts : 579
Age : 73
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime19/3/2021, 18:55

Great, well at least we can assume Grandad didn't go to to Australia in 1957 under Hungarian Refugee Scheme,  called MIFLY.

I note the use of the town Munster and not Münster (with dots!). This will save you problems should you contact Munster. Nowa days, we ex military guys, often refer to the town as Munster-Lager.

I have found an old file  which refers to various DP pers sent to in the late forties,to be they Polish, Hungarian or one of many other listed nationalities.

This file will now be in the Town Archives of Munster or have been moved onto larger Archives ie. Hanover.

One of our team has a knack for identifying where archives may have been moved to.Or at least information on possible alternative locations for you to write to.

I think possibly that one of the following file listed could hold info about your Grandfather?  Good Luck!   Alan.

https://www.ukrhec.org/collections-research/archives/fallingbostel-and-munster-lager-dp-camp-church-records
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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 08:35

Alan, sorry need to correct you according to the first document he was returned to 52 DPACS:

52 Displaced Persons Assembly Centre Staff was in Münster-Coerde by Jul 47 formerly located in Warendorf from Jul 45

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Number of posts : 579
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Localisation : Norfolk, UK
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 09:22

Thanks Steve,

I took it from last note from PJR.

The umlaut! Could be the death of many a Researcher. Even expensive for the unwary Mil person as well?

PS. Knew Coerde from the late 70's.
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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 12:18

See attached Münster maps. These might help in orientation Old against modern.

The old map will be 1930/1950.
The colured one map (Modern) 1970/80.

Note the colour code I have used:

Nelson/Lincoln Bks on the Grevener Str  GREEN
Winterborne Bks (Coerde) BLUE
Portsmouth Bks (Coerde) RED

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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 13:12

Well done Alan

Can confirm the grid reference for 52 Displaced Persons Assembly Centre Staff points to Portsmouth Barracks formerly Neue Artilleriekaserne and collocated with 58 Displaced Persons Assembly Centre Staff, de.wikiedia.org confirms “after the end of the Second World War, barracks and camps were occupied with displaced persons”

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Number of posts : 579
Age : 73
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 16:25

Hi PJR,

Would you be Terri or family connected with the Ancestery Search connected with NOSKO Roman? (The site is not accessible to me. So no problems there!)

I realise you are searching for information, Post WW2 Germany to UK etc. using the BFG/BAOR site.
Are there any other military documents in connection with your search that maybe usefull to us?

Thanks
Alan







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PostSubject: Re: Any information on Nosko, Roman   Any information on Nosko, Roman Icon_minitime20/3/2021, 19:58

I am Yes, Terri is my cousin. Me and her collaborate when we have time on research found......
I was more interested in his time with the mixed civil service and if there would be any kind of records documenting his time there? Apart for his discharge papers....
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