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+6Hardrations brum JPW Themaadone jim handler 69 10 posters | |
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handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 09:54 | |
| I have been told that in the old days LOL! The natives could get a wee bit upset finding Centurions and/or Chieftans outside their doors and fields. I have read about farmers chasing sections out of their fields!! So how were relations with the locals whilst you chaps were on exercise Cheers Troy | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 10:00 | |
| I'm a bit surprised at that Troy, as part of the CMOC team, I used to go out as an interpreter and pay villages and stuff to allow us to set up Corp's HQ. | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 10:07 | |
| Aww you know how it is telling us young gulliable Aussies things LOL! Just intrested in any humourous outings is all.... Cheers Troy PS must be rater early over there cobber! | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 10:14 | |
| It's 10' Oclock troy, tea break time, now where's my bacon sandwich. | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 10:16 | |
| 1915 here in Tasmania! We used to have some sheep squashing done at Puckapunyal with the Leopards LOL! | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 10:18 | |
| Bacon sanga...MAN watch that cholestrol.....killed Elvis you know | |
| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 11:16 | |
| Lies - Elvis works in a Fish & Chip shop in Bognor Regis! The Germans actually loved excercises as damcon (damage control) could authorise generous payments for track and wheel damage as well as damaged buildings well above insurance value-the girls loved it too and would sometimes venture into the back of a vehicle for a close inspection of the third kind Thats when the locals got pissed! LOL | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 11:39 | |
| See I knew there was a story or two there LOL | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 13:09 | |
| Oh yes, damage control, yes the locals did love them. | |
| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 15:46 | |
| We went to a pre determined excercise area just outside of Sennelager. The farmer had given permission for our Company to be billeted in one of his fields knowing we would churn everything up completely. And we did! One guy swung a drops (an 8 tonne hgv) into a barn which totalled the vehicle, tearing the cab to shreds and threw two heavy steel doors from the railings and damaging the structure - between you and me the place was a dump - the guy driving had minor injuries but whilst he was carted off to BMH Rinteln the farmer and his wife and daughters fed us like Kings for three weeks - it was great....
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| | | JPW Let Gen
Number of posts : 1119 Age : 83 Localisation : Berkshire Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg Ploen Lippstadt Hamm Wetter Minden Munster Bielefeldt Dusseldorf Registration date : 2008-11-09
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 13/9/2010, 19:26 | |
| Troy
Agree with Jim that the Brits were generally accepted by the farming community on account that we generally paid up for any major damage, different matter with our Canadian friends who rumour had it promised to pay but never did and the local Panzers who flatly refused.
In many cases it was a case of buggins turn. If Heinz got the majority of cash one year Fritz got it the next and the Exercise was planned accordingly when negotiating 443 Rights, Jim you must have been involved.
Logistic units were generally the most popular. not only were they do less damage with their mainly wheeled vehicles but the local backerei made a small profit with extra sales of brotchen etc. REME workshops also played on the hearts and minds by fixing any tractors or similar machinery before the main vehicle casualties started to appear. There were exceptions, I remember one occasion when a couple of Recce Mechs decided to raid the local trout farm for a fish breakfast the situation was only resolved by the exchange of a couple of bottles of whisky in payment,
Rumour control had it with the major landowners that the promise of meeting of the Weser Vale Hounds in the hunting season was also a major factor in reducing complaints | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 09:39 | |
| Spot on JPW.I loved being part of CMOC, we always went out first and recce'd the locations, much donating of bottles of whisky etc, we were always well looked after by the locals and yes, the local girl;s as well | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 09:41 | |
| LOL so it is true Farmer Von Brown would open gates for you LOL | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 09:46 | |
| Sorry lads ......forgot my manners! Good Evening from chilly Tasmania! | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 09:51 | |
| And a good morning to you Sir ! From a soggy but warm Cheshire.
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| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 09:55 | |
| The same place as the cat?? LOL Suns over the yard arm here so Iam enjoying a nice Badger and talking to you charming gentlemen....what more could one wish for | |
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| | | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 14:58 | |
| and good afternoon from a very wet and windy midlands mate. Well, theyb were always happy to see the Corps HQ recce team that's for sure. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 18:27 | |
| A brigade ex was laid on, one time in the seventies. Nobody wanted to go out, of course.
A rumour came around that, once a million marks worth of damage was caused, the ex would be called off. True or not, a lot more of us practised that old favourite of the 432 driver - pushing trees down.
We never thought much more about it after that 'til, going through a village, we saw a Greenjackets column coming toward us. Next thing, the lead 432 swung to his right and drove over a car that was parked by the road.
The rumour had obviously got around. Them Greenjackets were barmy anyway.
Funny though, the ex was stopped early.
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| | | Themaadone Maj
Number of posts : 270 Localisation : Near London Cap Badge : RAOC/RLC/AGC Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Registration date : 2010-09-02
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 14/9/2010, 18:50 | |
| There were several Regiments which had barmy or fish n chips status - barmy RGJ, A and SH, Para, Kings...
Fish and Chips - D & D, KORBR, Queens (fish and chips = more use as sportsmen)... | |
| | | Hardrations Let Gen
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Cap Badge : RC Sigs (RTG Op) / CF Logistics (Cook) Places Served : Germany, Egypt, Cyprus, CFS Alert and some other strange places Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 15/9/2010, 04:16 | |
| - JPW wrote:
- Troy
Agree with Jim that the Brits were generally accepted by the farming community on account that we generally paid up for any major damage, different matter with our Canadian friends who rumour had it promised to pay but never did and the local Panzers who flatly refused.
Not true. I worked at Bde H.Q's. The Canadians tended to over pay for damages. They never argued the toss. Just payed up what ever was demanded. Then there was the Rob Roy Ex. fall of 68. Man that was massive damage done by Brits/Cdns. I well remember seeing a Brit. Centurion fishtailing on a cobble stone road. The stones were just winging back and around. It was just before harvest. The Germans were absolutely p...ed. The road side marker posts ( with the reflect-ores) in one area were all knocked over, I got the last lonely one. | |
| | | handler 69 WOI
Number of posts : 160 Age : 55 Localisation : Launceston Tasmania Cap Badge : RACT Places Served : Army Reserve TA Registration date : 2010-09-11
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 15/9/2010, 04:35 | |
| I take it that was before the hush puppy treads? LOL I can just picture the Cent flinging stones around LOL! I get seven bottles of British ale for the week and open one each night! Tonight it is Tennants LOL As you can appreciate British beer here ain't cheap, but I have accquired a taste for it LOL. I think I read somewhere that the eco nobs (tree huggers) started objecting to the exercises, what about helicopters? Slow trip up the autobahn in a Centurion or Chieftan I bet | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 15/9/2010, 15:55 | |
| Is there a puke icon round here for tennants. | |
| | | BobG Lt Col
Number of posts : 330 Age : 85 Localisation : Northumberland Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Rotenburg, Verden, Liebenau, Hohne, Hamm, Duisburg, Minden, Hannover, Fallingbostal, Kuwait, UK, HK, USA/Can. Registration date : 2008-02-27
| Subject: Re: Exercises and the natives 15/9/2010, 16:16 | |
| It was a very rare event for MBTs to be permitted to drive on the Autobahn, they were normally moved by Tank Transporters at a reasonable speed of up to 50 MPH going downhill.
Bob | |
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