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PostSubject: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 15:39

Hi folks - my first post.

My Dad was in the 23rd Hussars during WW2. They were disbanded at Leicester Barracks, Husum in early '46. Dad then transferred to 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards (the Skins). I have some of his photos taken 'somewhere in Germany' and was wondering if anyone recognises the location. He thinks it's Munster. Thanks in advance. Grimmy

Dad messing around - Comet Tanks in background:


Dad and Comet Tank of 23rd Hussars:
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 16:42

Hi there,
I did 12 years in York Bks from 1988-2000, I cannot confirm either way from these pictures.
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 16:50

Thanks Pinky, I realise there's not much to go on!

Here's a slightly better view of the background - one of Dad's mates on the same Matchless:



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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 17:58


Those garages look about ready to fall down.

I wonder if they survived much beyond the 40s ?
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 18:04

Here's a modern pic of Munster. There is certainly a similarity with the windows above the doors, but of course that may be a standard design.

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 18:33

grimmy

Welcome

Steve and I , with the considerable assistance of other members of this site, are attempting to construct a detailed list of units and their locations comprising the British Army of the Rhine in the 1945-1948 period

I was therefore very interested in your father's query and the associated photographs

According to the information I have seen (11 Armoured Division War Diaries) The 23 Hussars were disbanded in Husum in December 1945/January 1946 and were replaced by the Royal Scots Greys. At the time the Skins were relatively close by in the village of Bensdorf near Rendsburg but moved to Munster in July 46 and on to Paderborn the following year.

One pre war German Tank Park/Garages looks pretty similar to the next but I agree that the photos were probably taken in Munster (I have not yet identified any Barracks in Bensdorf- Kleiner Jimmy/Heinz who lives in the Rendsburg area and drops in on this site may be able to confirm this in due course)

Your father might be amused to know that the Skins were back in York Barracks Munster 25 years later in the early 70s this time equipted with Chieftain tanks.

One query for you it was my understanding that the Husum Barracks was not named Leicester till Spring 1946 with the arrival of the 153 (Leicestershire Yeomanry) field Regiment RA. The 23 Hussars geographical link appears to be the Eaast Riding of Yorkshire. Am I wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 19:02

HI THERE,
The latest picture show the QRIH in York bks Munster before 1988, that tankpark was RHQ's or/and Command troops hangers.
The sabre squadrons tank park hangers were much newer and did not have attics like those dipicted in the above pictures.
I therefore believe the older pictures are in York bks.
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   6/3/2012, 22:08

Sure looks like Gremmendorf Kaserne (York Barracks) to me. I served there from 1952-54 with 4 Sqn 6 Armd Div Signals (20 Armd Bde Sig Sqn).
Armoured unit at the time was 17/21 Lancers.

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 08:43

grimmy wrote:
Here's a modern pic of Munster. There is certainly a similarity with the windows above the doors, but of course that may be a standard design.


Errr, . . those two on the right. A bit of Mixed Dress creeping in there, I think.
And the figure on the left ? I think he'll regret that photo for a long time to come !
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 10:27

Thanks for your help folks.

JPW wrote:
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One query for you it was my understanding that the Husum Barracks was not named Leicester till Spring 1946 with the arrival of the 153 (Leicestershire Yeomanry) field Regiment RA. The 23 Hussars geographical link appears to be the Eaast Riding of Yorkshire. Am I wrong?

Quite right - the majority of 23H men were from that neck of the woods and the Roll of Honour (carved in Germany) is kept at Bridlington Priory Church. There is still a reunion there every Remembrance Sunday.

I've never heard Dad refer to Husum as Leicester Barracks (I got the name from an online article), but I'll ask him about that. I think he has a photo of Husum which I will scan as soon as I can.

The Skins were also in Osnabruck for a while - he remembers them guarding a coal dump (in freeeeezing weather!).
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 15:32

I agree with Len. Those tank garages do look like York Barracks. I served there 1962-3 with 6 Inf Bde Signal Sqn (206 Sig Sqn). The Queens Own Hussars vacated the barracks in 1962 and the 4/7th Dragoon guards moved in. Always remember a glass case in the foyer of the 4/7th HQ containing a uniform of one of their former officers - Lt Gen Carton de Wiat VC.
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 19:46

Tank GARAGES Jim ...tsk! tsk! ... STABLES mate STABLES


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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 19:58

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 20:00

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Tank GARAGES Jim ...tsk! tsk! ... STABLES mate STABLES


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To paraphrase Winston;

"Some stables - Some f****** horse !"
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   7/3/2012, 20:07

Grimmy,

Here's yours truely on my Triumph in Cyprus - 1955

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 09:35

Garages.......Stables ............
Please Gentlemen...........
TANK HANGERS.

I thank you
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 10:06

What we would have given for a 'Tank hanger' out in Korea. The 8th Hussars & their Cromwells and later centurions were out in the open.
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 10:17

grimmy

Thanks for your input

In your father's time the barracks in Husum was probably still officially known as Marine Kaserne (Marine Barracks) Did the 23rd Hussars give it their own name which was lost when the Gunners took over?
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 10:19

JPW wrote:
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Thanks for your input

In your father's time the barracks in Husum was probably still officially known as Marine Kaserne (Marine Barracks) Did the 23rd Hussars give it their own name which was lost when the Gunners took over?




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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 10:21

JPW wrote:
In your father's time the barracks in Husum was probably still officially known as Marine Kaserne (Marine Barracks) Did the 23rd Hussars give it their own name which was lost when the Gunners took over?

I'll find out this weekend when I see him. His memories of the latter period of the war are much vaguer than when he was in Normandy (not surprising I suppose, given what 23H went through).
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 17:18

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Garages.......Stables ............
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TANK HANGERS.

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Oh dear, these Donkeywallopers.

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 17:31

If we're being super pedantic then it should be HANGAR not hanger Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 17:47

Stables in the REAL cavalry (17/21 Lancers) Pinky ... now our LAD's had hangers (well they were all males after all) ..

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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   8/3/2012, 21:56

Good, a fight between the Cavalry. That takes the heat off us Siggys Les and Len !!
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PostSubject: Re: York Barracks, Munster?   9/3/2012, 04:20

Boneheads........good regt.
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