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JPW
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   26/2/2015, 11:48

Rock

You have a fascinating and challenging project

Have been on radio Listening Watch this past month and am about to go complete silence for the next two weeks

Will contact you on my return to the UK with thoughts on correct livery/vehicle markings and the RAOC unit involved (this might have been a holding unit/out station of one of the major RAOC BAOR vehicle depots based in Moenchen Gladbach or Recklinghausen
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   26/2/2015, 18:34

OK, under the RAOC numbering system Companies were allocated a two digit number, and sub-units a 3 digit number.

On the D-Day Order of Battle there is a '15 Vehicle Company' with several 'Vehicle Parks' & 'Transit Vehicle Parks' one of them being "151 Vehicle Park'

One of the 'Vehicle Parks' would have been assigned to each Major Formation and would have held replacement vehicles ( A - Armoured, B- Soft Skinned & C - Plant) particular to that formation, and after the war would have backloaded surplus stock, and received & issued new stock, such as VW's etc.

It would not have been an active unit but a 'Vehicle Depot', and other than possibly a Staff Car for the OC, a few Jeeps & Trucks, all the other vehicles would be held with no marking pending issue to units. Returned stocks would have had unit details painted out. [It is possible that the few unit vehicles were marked with a 151 in circle]

RAOC soldiers serving in such depots tended to wear the 21st Army Group (GHQ and L of C Troops) Flash and later British Army of the Rhine - BAOR Troops Flash

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   26/2/2015, 23:54

Thank you for that info. Why are some a red shield with blue cross and some the same with CCG in them? Pardon my ignorance but what is OC and GHQ?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   27/2/2015, 11:15

GHQ = General Headquarters
L of C = Line of Communications which included Signals & Supplies
OC = Officer Commanding (Smaller Ordnance sections had a WO i/c = Warrant Officer in Charge)
CCG = Control Commission Germany which was mainly a civilian organisation


HQ 21st Army Group (GHQ and L of C Troops)
Later, HQ British Army of the Rhine


21st Army Group (GHQ and L of C Troops) [worn by Ordnance Stores Units but generally not on vehicles]
Later, British Troops in France

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   28/2/2015, 03:37

If you look at the photo I posted on 20/2/2015, 21:05 you will see that car has a shield with cross and one sword vertically pointing down.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   28/2/2015, 09:22

The badge with the Sword was adopted in April 1947 for 'British Army of the Rhein' (Rhine Army Troops) other than HQ BAOR: I British Corps, Hamburg District, all Divisions and Brigades on the BAOR  Order of Battle (in possession of their own formation badge).

I am sorry the list is too long to type! To name a few others who did not carry the badge were. ie British Troops in Berlin and Trd Centres, Trg Schools.


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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   28/2/2015, 09:28



As described above

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PostSubject: Still restoring my 11E VW   28/8/2016, 08:09

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   28/8/2016, 10:31

Rock

You have done a fantastic restoration job

The vehicle is now in the livery of a British Control Commission Germany transport unit
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