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PostSubject: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 02:16

What was Vehicle Coy 151 in Lippstedt Germany?  Was it a British Transportation Unit?  Was it a Germany Volkswagen Dealership?  My 1952 Volkswagen 11E Beetle was delivered there in 1952.
Does anyone know?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 03:40

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 12:06

151 Vehicle Company was a British unit of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps in Lippstadt, sorry no other details...

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 15:46

Volkswagen Beetles were issued for use, primarily, as welfare transport to take soldiers and families to hospital appointments.   I was stationed in Lippstadt from 1964 - 1969 I would imagine 151 Ordnance Company had been and gone by then.   A photograph of myself and a colleague taken in 1964 - I am on the right.



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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 21:49

Thank you that helps a lot. Is the color of my Volkswagen the same as the VW you road in? I have seen a photo of 151 in a broken circle on the doors and front hood was that a marking of Vehicle Coy 151?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 22:08

I see on the hood the British Flag and it looks like some other rectangle marking. Other than the license plate were there any other markings on the vehicle?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   19/2/2015, 22:13

I may be putting this vehicle in the Fort Knox Museum and I want to make sure I represent it the correct way it would have looked in 1952.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   20/2/2015, 13:14

Rock 7 wrote:
 Is the color of my Volkswagen the same as the VW you road in?  


If it helps, the colour of the paint we used, back then,
was BRONZE GREEN.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   20/2/2015, 16:20

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I see on the hood the British Flag and it looks like some other rectangle marking.  Other than the license plate were there any other markings on the vehicle?


These vehicles were on charge to the Station Staff Officer, this was a small, non combatant unit, normally consisting of a retired Major and 2 or 3 German civilian support clerks.   Their duties would be mainly administrative such as the allocation and maintenance of married quarters and welfare, in addition to the VW Beetles they probably had a couple of ambulances and the Medical Officers Austin Mini on charge.   The vehicles were administered, that is, serviced and maintained by the Mechanical Transport section of, in this case, Headquarters Battery.   These vehicles, unlike the remainder of the Regiments transport, would be classed as non combatant, the combatant vehicles would display the Union flag and a Tac sign relating to where it appeared on the Divisional Order of Battle.   At the time the Regiment was part of 4th Inf Div and our Tac sign was 4/67, I suspect that the rectangular marking (Tac sign) was placed on the bonnet of the VW and then, when the mistake was realised, painted over.   To my knowledge there were no other signs/markings on the car.   Perhaps you could post the original vehicle documentation?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 00:07

All I have is the paperwork from Wolfsburg Stiftung AutoMuseum Certifying the vehicle was delivered to Vehicle Coy 151, Lippstedt, Germany in 1952. I also have the German Title showing when it was titled to a German Civilian.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 00:09

So the Vehicle Coy 151 was not a unit but a retired Maj and two Civilians?
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:05

here are some other vehicles with military markings.  
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:08

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:10

Here is one that has apparently been restored.


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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:10



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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:10

And here are two with their markings on the front Plate or nowhere to be seen.



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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 02:14

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 13:56

Rock 7 wrote:
So the Vehicle Coy 151 was not a unit but a retired Maj and two Civilians?


No, the retired Major and his civilian staff were a different entity altogether!   The Volkswagens would have been sourced by the Procurement Executive, a branch of the War Office, probably from the VW factory in Wolfsburg.   They would then be issued to 151 Vehicle Company of the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, which is similar in composition to  the United States Army Ordnance Corps.   They would then be "Militarised" by RAOC Vehicle Specialists before being issued to units of the British Army.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   21/2/2015, 20:59

Is the restored Volkswagen above from the 151 Vehicle Company of the RAOC? The reason I ask is the numbers on the doors and hood (bonnet) 151 in a broken white circle.
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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   22/2/2015, 15:15

Not too sure but the Vehicle is registered in Muenster, Germany and looking at information on an earlier thread I suspect that it belongs to the guy who's 'phone number is included in the initial posting, maybe give him a ring and see if he has managed to obtain any more information?

http://bfg-locations.editboard.com/t637-british-army-vw-beetle-1950s

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PostSubject: Re: Vehicle Coy 151? British? German? or American?   22/2/2015, 23:55

Does anyone know what patch the Vehicle Coy 151 patch looked like? Is it the CCG Patch?
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