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 Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)

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PostSubject: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   8/3/2007, 19:28

Does anybody know the role of Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale) during WW2 or which regiment was based there? Also, does anybody know of the early British units stationed there?
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   9/3/2007, 08:34

I don't know the answer to any of your questions, but I think that I have seen the picture you have down as 'Unknown 9' as being Bielefeld.

If that is the case it can only be of soldiers marching into Rochdale (Mossbank) Bks by the second gate, the one behind the guardroom.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   15/3/2007, 07:41

Rumour has it that just after the war, the barracks were used as a military prison. This is to be confirmed.

As far as anyone here can remember there has always been REME in there.

Currently 3 BN WKSPS, Prosecution Services and ACL (G) are in there.[
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PostSubject: Mossbank Barracks - Links   15/3/2007, 14:30

I know that Bielefeld fell in Mar/Apr 1945 to the Americans and was handed over to British control in 1946. I've also heard that it was a prison and it took the name Mossbank from another prison situated within the UK. I'm also to agree that it had been extensively used by the Reme. 2 CS (newly formed theatre troops) have just squeezed in with 3 Civ Wksp.
A friend of mine also stated that the barracks was used for electronic warfare during the war. What is interesting is that he mentioned that it was inwards pointing - internal security. The emblem can be seen above the door on this website.
There is a belting picture of the camp if you follow this link;-

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=24904/highlight=bielefeld.html

There are also polenty of pictures of the barracks on this site (although you will need to look closely as they are not labled up);-

http://www.dasheer.org.uk/original_photos.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   15/3/2007, 15:03

The one near the ex PC69 was originally Richmond Barracks. When they closed it down, the army opened Reeth Barracks near Potsdamerstrasse.
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PostSubject: The Answer   17/5/2007, 11:12

"The Military Corrective Centre, BAOR (another term for military prison) was established shortly after 1945 in Langermark Kaserne on the Oldentruper Strasse in Bielefeld.
The barracks was renamed Mossbank after Mossbank Prison in Scotland, where one of the wings had been used as a military prison between 1939-45. The name was not intended, in any way, to reflect an especially good Scottish membership! Business thrived until 1959 when the "baddies" were moved elsewhere.
Among the units to occupy this red brick barracks was a small oranisation called HQ Movement Control RE, Bielefeld. The function of this unit were subsequently taken over by 25 Tpt & Mov Regt RCT which formed in Mossbank Barracks in 1965.
In 1983 25 Tpt & Mov Regt RCT moved out of Mossbank Barracks in order to make room for HQ REME 1 (BR) Corps, which moved from Minden to share the barracks with 1 Corps Tps Wksp REME, thus turning Mossbank into an entirely REME domain.
The old Courts Martial Centre also moved to Block 2, Catterick Barracks, Bielefeld."


Some of the guests of the Military Corrective Centre, Bielefeld, were Johnny Briggs, who played Mike Baldwin in Coronation Street and Leslie Grantham, aka Dirty Den Watts of Eastenders.
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PostSubject: Bielefled   14/8/2007, 07:22

The following two links might confirm whether Mossbank was used as a prison or not;

(COPY AND PASTE THE FULL LINK AS CLICKING ON IT WILL NOT LINK YOU TO THE PICS!)

Block 3

www.redcap70.net/1Corps(1).html/slides/MCE%20Bielefeld%201953%201.html

The gym with block 3 to the right

www.redcap70.net/1Corps(1).html/slides/MCE%20Bielefeld%201953.html
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PostSubject: Mossbank Bks   15/8/2007, 09:19

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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   15/8/2007, 21:01

I lived around the corner from Mossbank around 58- 60 and can confirm that it was an MCTC. My Dad also told me about a time he had to deliver a prisoner there.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   25/10/2007, 21:34

Concerning the photo of Rochdale under construction, the uniform of the man on the right is that of a Belgian Captain from the Allied Demilitarisation Commission. This was instituted by the Völkerbund to control all German military activities. It existed until 1937. I guess this was an inspection to see what the Germans were building in Bielefeld.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   25/10/2007, 21:34

Concerning the photo of Rochdale under construction, the uniform of the man on the right is that of a Belgian Captain from the Allied Demilitarisation Commission. This was instituted by the Völkerbund to control all German military activities. It existed until 1937. I guess this was an inspection to see what the Germans were building in Bielefeld.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   3/1/2008, 14:14

I recall being told it was a prison, but in my day (74-77) it was a Transport Regiment, probably 25 as mentioned above.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   13/3/2011, 21:24

I was at Mossbank, 25 Regt from 71 to 73, and played football with the Field Ambulance unit also based there. In the mid 80's met an ex SNCO from Coldstream guards who had been stationed there after the war and said he was guarding all sorts of prisoners "ours and there's", also said it was a grim place back then, not sure if they carried out corporal punishment there, he passed away a few years ago.
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PostSubject: Rochdale Bks (formerly Mossbank Bks - Today   19/6/2011, 15:43

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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   4/1/2013, 15:25

dagian wrote:

Served in Mossbank Barracks 81-83. Was the home of 1(BR)Corps Troops Workshops REME. The top 2 floors of the building on the left as you pass through the gate were used as the Sergeants Mess.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   12/2/2014, 01:46

By the time I got there in 1990, to take up post in 1 (BR) Corps Tps Wksp as the worst CQMS in NATO, 20 Electronic Wksp REME had moved from Minden into a new purpose built electronic repair facility built behind the gymnasium.

The old cell blocks had been 'Op Humaned' into self contained flats. I can't remember how many personnel were allocated to the flats, but they were a vast improvement on the previous accommodation.
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PostSubject: Re: Mossbank Barracks (now Rochdale)   12/2/2014, 13:11

Bedou

Welcome, with your arrival we can now form a completely self contained,self administering REME subunit from the talents and experience available from the BLUEBELL contributors to this site. Knew Mossbank Barracks quite well in the early 70's when I was based in HQ 1 (BR) Corps.
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