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Number of posts : 2808
Age : 78
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 20:30

Shelldrake wrote:
I'll say it before anyone else - was he told to "Get on his Bike?".

If I may inject a moment of levity gentlemen.

I just heard on the news that the police on the Wirral had found a man, trapped in a council bin wagon.

It was thought that he'd got into a rubbish bin to spend the night and the waggon had come along and, not knowing the bloke was in there, emptied the contents, him with it . The geezer had bruising and puncture wounds.

Are you OK now teabag ?

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 22:44

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LCpl with I belive 4 good conduct stripes, which meant at least 12 years undetected crime, three years per stripe

That would be 15 years.. two and a half years each for the first two and five years for each one after that.I think four would be the max as you`re now qualifying for the LS & GC medal.
Most i ever saw was three.
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Registration date : 2009-08-27

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 23:02

BobG wrote:
Going back in time when good conduct stripes were worn I remember the post NCO at AAS Arborfield was a LCpl with I belive 4 good conduct stripes, which meant at least 12 years undetected crime, three years per stripe. Another aspect of the good conduct stripe was a means of detecting an ex boy as you were usually awarded one upon passing out, for some it proved to be the only tape they wore.

Good Conduct Stripes for Privates & L/Cpls were for 2 Years, 6 Years, 12 Years and 18 Years. Four being the maximum. Last saw them in the Ordnance Corps around 1972!

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Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
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Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 23:16


Funny thing, although qualified I (we) was never allowed to wear Good Conduct stripes.

Must have been an Artillery thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 23:23

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Good Conduct Stripes for Privates & L/Cpls were for 2 Years, 6 Years, 12 Years and 18 Years

Must have varied from corps to corps.Signals were definately two and a half,five, ten and fifteen
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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime22/1/2011, 23:42

Just checked and you are right.

Queens Regulations for the Army 1975:

5.462. The following are to be eligible for the award of good conduct badges:
a. Soldiers serving with the colours on any type of engagement. This includes junior leaders, juniors, apprentice soldiers and soldiers under 18 years of age.
b. Reservists, including men of the TA, when embodied or called out for whole time service.
5.463. Good conduct badges may be granted during whole time service on completion of the following terms of good conduct:

2 and a half years First Badge.
A further 2 and a half years Second Badge.
A further 5 years Third Badge.

and one extra for each additional term of 5 years.

5.464. A term of good conduct includes a period of such service as listed below during which no entry has been made on the regimental conduct sheet (see para 5.551);
a. Service with the colours on any type of engagement.
b. Service in the Regular Reserve when called out on permanent service.
c. Service in the TA when embodied or called out on whole time service.
d. Equivalent service in the Royal Navy or Royal Air Force or any reserve or auxiliary force thereof.
The period is to be reckoned from the date of the last entry on the conduct sheet or, if that entry carried a sentence of imprisonment or detention, from the day following release from imprisonment or detention on expiry, remission or suspension of sentence.
5.465. A good conduct badge will not be awarded to a soldier if, on the completion of a term of good conduct, he is absent or is awaiting disposal of a charge, as a result of which an entry is later recorded on his regimental conduct sheet.
5.466. A warrant officer or NCO reduced to the ranks for other than disciplinary reasons will be granted at once those badges for which he would have been eligible, regard being had to the entries in his regimental conduct sheet and to the provisions of paras 5.468 to 5.470.
5.467. Members of the reserve forces may wear good conduct badges awarded during Colour service.
Forfeiture of Badges
5.468. One good conduct badge of any already granted to a soldier will be forfeited for each period of detention awarded by a civil or military court exceeding 27 days but not exceeding 3 months.
5.469. A soldier will forfeit all his good conduct badges and will, for requalification, revert to the conditions of para 5.463, if:
a. He is sentenced by a civil court or a court-martial to a term of detention or imprisonment exceeding 3 months.
b. He is sentenced by a civil court to preventative detention, corrective training, or Borstal training.
c. He is reduced to the ranks, from substantive corporal or higher ranks, by court-martial or as a result of conviction by the civil power.
5.470. A soldier will forfeit all his good conduct badges when discharged:
a. Following dismissal with disgrace.
b. Expressly on account of misconduct.
c. Following conviction by the civil power.
d. For giving a false answer on attestation.
5.471. The forfeiture of good conduct badges under paras 5.468 to 5.470 is automatic and not included in the sentence award.
Recording
5.472. The award and forfeiture of good conduct badges is to be published in Part 1 Orders, and the necessary entries made in unit documents.
5.473 - 5.510. Reserved.


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Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 08:13

Bloody hell, Mike - have you got "Staff Duties in the Field" by JR Hartley? Shocked
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Number of posts : 3027
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Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 08:17

brum wrote:

Funny thing, although qualified I (we) was never allowed to wear Good Conduct stripes.

Must have been an Artillery thing.



I think you could be correct there, Brum. I don't ever recollect seeing a Gnr with Good Conduct stripes, being "Individual" in the Gunners wasn't to be encouraged. I was so "Individual" that I didn't get my Rootie Gong! Suspect On the subject of Boy Soldiers, I seem to remember that if you made it to JRSM then you automatically qualified for a stripe on Mustering.
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Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 09:31

brum wrote:
Shelldrake wrote:
I'll say it before anyone else - was he told to "Get on his Bike?".

If I may inject a moment of levity gentlemen.

I just heard on the news that the police on the Wirral had found a man, trapped in a council bin wagon.

It was thought that he'd got into a rubbish bin to spend the night and the waggon had come along and, not knowing the bloke was in there, emptied the contents, him with it . The geezer had bruising and puncture wounds.

Are you OK now teabag ?


How very dare you! Anyway, everyone knows our bin men are still traumatised from the recent bad weather (ooh we can't empty bins, we might slip) and reports of them actually working are false.

Having said that, you could probably get two of me in a wheelie bin and still close the lid. They are quite cosy although a little smelly.
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Number of posts : 2808
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Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 09:39

Shelldrake wrote:
brum wrote:

Funny thing, although qualified I (we) was never allowed to wear Good Conduct stripes.

Must have been an Artillery thing.



I think you could be correct there, Brum. I don't ever recollect seeing a Gnr with Good Conduct stripes, being "Individual" in the Gunners wasn't to be encouraged. I was so "Individual" that I didn't get my Rootie Gong! Suspect On the subject of Boy Soldiers, I seem to remember that if you made it to JRSM then you automatically qualified for a stripe on Mustering.

Junior RSM ? Jesus, I counted myself lucky to have made Gunner !

(Strangely enough though, although I went on to be a Signaller, I can still remember how to lay a 25 pdr).
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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 09:41

[/quote]

How very dare you! Anyway, everyone knows our bin men are still traumatised from the recent bad weather (ooh we can't empty bins, we might slip) and reports of them actually working are false.

Having said that, you could probably get two of me in a wheelie bin and still close the lid. They are quite cosy although a little smelly.[/quote]

I deduce, from that rant, that you're OK then !
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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 11:08

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Just checked and you are right.


I knew i was right.but where did you get your original times from.?
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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 11:21

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On the subject of Boy Soldiers, I seem to remember that if you made it to JRSM then you automatically qualified for a stripe on Mustering.

May have been junior leaders.The only apprentices who mustered with a stripe were technicians from AAS Harrogate.This started in Summer of 61.In my intake the A/T RSM was RE and he left as a Sapper.

Most RA apprentices leaving Harrogate wore a good conduct stripe.Whether they kept them up when they joined their units?i know not.Mine was on BD only (not NO 2s)for a year untill i made CPL.
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Cap Badge : Royal Artillery
Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh
Registration date : 2010-10-26

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(Strangely enough though, although I went on to be a Signaller, I can still remember how to lay a 25 pdr).[/quote]




Dirty Boy!! Embarassed Embarassed
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Number of posts : 960
Age : 69
Localisation : Merseyside
Cap Badge : Royal Signals
Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold
Registration date : 2008-10-30

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime23/1/2011, 12:14

Shelldrake wrote:


(Strangely enough though, although I went on to be a Signaller, I can still remember how to lay a 25 pdr).




Dirty Boy!! Embarassed Embarassed [/quote]


Quite agree and they must be really skinny birds in Birmingham.
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Number of posts : 1291
Localisation : Sutton Coldfield
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Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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Teabag wrote:

Quite agree and they must be really skinny birds in Birmingham.

I wish, if you go to broad street on a Saturday night you'll see more naked poundage than you'd want to shake your stick at. Sad
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Age : 78
Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire
Cap Badge : RA/QOH
Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich
Registration date : 2010-03-02

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PostSubject: Re: Record?   Record? - Page 2 Icon_minitime24/1/2011, 14:53

jim wrote:
Teabag wrote:

Quite agree and they must be really skinny birds in Birmingham.

I wish, if you go to broad street on a Saturday night you'll see more naked poundage than you'd want to shake your stick at. Sad

It's not "poundage" 'round here, Jim.

More like tonnage ! elephant
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Number of posts : 1291
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LOL Yes, Brum. I was being kind. Wink
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Number of posts : 270
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Places Served : Bielefeld, Guetersloh, Viersen, Bracht, Falklands, Aldershot, Leconsfield, NI, Rwanda, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan
Registration date : 2010-09-02

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LOL cheers
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Registration date : 2011-01-26

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BobG wrote:
Going back in time when good conduct stripes were worn I remember the post NCO at AAS Arborfield was a LCpl with I belive 4 good conduct stripes, which meant at least 12 years undetected crime, three years per stripe. Another aspect of the good conduct stripe was a means of detecting an ex boy as you were usually awarded one upon passing out, for some it proved to be the only tape they wore.

We had one similar during my time there. He was known by one and all as "Gearbox". He had one down and three up.
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