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PostSubject: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime19/2/2019, 15:32

Hi,

I have a photograph of my Grandfather, Jens Frederick Thorn, a retired Police Sergeant, with a inscription on the back dated March 1946 "standing outside the British Headquarters in Berlin."

I have plans to visit Berlin in March 2019 and would love to know the whereabouts in Berlin of the Allied Control Commission HQ and whether there is any evidence of it today. Even to visit the road would be great.
My understanding is that it may have been in the Charlottenburg district?

Does anyone know this information?

Additionally, it would be useful to know where my Grandfather would have been barracked and any information of what an ex Police officer would have been doing from day to day in Berlin at this time.

My Grandfather was 51 at the time and married with 3 grown up children and contrived to meet a German lady in Berlin whom he eventually married in 1951.

Previously he had been a Police Office in London's East End and was probably at the battle of Cable Street!

Unfortunately, there's no-one left for me to find out more about this intriguing story!

Any information would be gratefully received, particularly on what is still to see in modern day Berlin.

Thanks,

Colin
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime19/2/2019, 20:19

Colin

Can give you an address for the Headquarters British Troops Berlin as at 31 Mar 47, as taken from a copy of an original document:

Marine House, Krisordamm (bad spelling should be Kaiserdamm), Charlottenburg, Berlin

This document was in the book "Berlin and the British Ally 1945 - 1990 by Major General RJS Corbett CB"

Hope this helps and best of luck with your research

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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime20/2/2019, 08:28

Thanks Steve,

That's most useful. This gives me a focal point to move forward!

I'm going to try and find the book you quoted too.

Much appreciated.

Colin
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime20/2/2019, 23:01

Colin

Some addresses from the Location Statement of 15 May 1946 follow.

Dave



HQ BTB
Marine House, Kaiserdamm

HQ 130 Inf Bde
7 Alemannenallee

Life Guards
Montgomery Barracks, Lanzendorfer Weg, Kladow
1 Dorset
Mackenzie-King Barracks, Berkaer Str
5 Dorset
Alexander Barracks, Stadtrandstr
7 Hamps
Wavell Barracks, Seektstr, Spandau


HQ Mil Gov BTB
Reichskanzlerplatz
HQ BTB (Camp)
Ratzeburger Allee
HQ BTB (Adm Brick)
Ratzeburger Allee


MIL GOV

HQ Mil Gov, Wilmersdorf, CCG (BE)
Deutsche Auslander, Westfalische Str and 8 Max-Eyth-Str
HQ Mil Gov, Spandau, CCG (BE)
31 Radelandstr
HQ Mil Gov, Tiergarten, CCG (BE)
90 Altmoabit
HQ Mil Gov, Charlottenburg, CCG (BE)
8 Ulmenallee

British Central Police Station
61 Knesebeckstr, Charlottenburg
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime21/2/2019, 08:34

Thanks Dave. The British Central Police Station looks promising.

From your experience and knowledge of the subject, where would you think an ex Police officer would likely have been barracked? I can link him loosely to the Charlottenburg / Spandau regions.

Could it have been at any of the specific army barrack locations?

Thanks for all this info.

Colin.
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime21/2/2019, 11:05

Dave

Many thanks for the Location Statement for 15 May 46

Have been able to update my BRITISH TROOPS BERLIN page

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Corrections welcome!
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime22/2/2019, 19:00

Colin

Sorry, I really have no idea. He may have been billeted in a private house. if he was working for Mil Gov then he might have stayed in the camp

HQ BTB (Camp)
Ratzeburger Allee

Dave
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime24/2/2019, 01:21


Allied Control Council building in Berlin

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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime28/3/2019, 08:41

My father (Sid Willmouth) stayed on in Germany after the war as part of the Control Commission in Hamburg. My mother and I went out to join him in 1947 (I was 3) and we lived in Hamburg until 1950. I was too young to understand what the Control Commission was. I know the Old Man had control of transport - from what I gather around 1000 cars and a large number of German drivers.
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Control Commission Germany 1945   Allied Control Commission Germany 1945 Icon_minitime28/3/2019, 12:50

Hi JGW,

Interested to read your input about your father's post war roll in CCG Hamburg,  ie. Control of Transport.

I find this Spooky!  I did some research work a few years ago for a lady in the USA concerning The Communist Party in Hamburg (KPD) immediate post war.  She was interested in tracking down a named person, who was working in the KPD.

No! I never found the named person in the many KPD - CCG letters of correspondence which are held at the Archives at Kew, London. However, there are a few letters marked "SECRET" regarding KPD leaders in Hamburg 'demanding', that the British CCG should supply X no of cars for delegates to attend a big meeting in Berlin.  

There are a few letters of the approx 200 photographed docs I have that refer to 'Transport ' matters.

Many of the scans, which are typed in English and German with translations and are not the best to read due to fading. Most docs  have clear, but scribbly CCG Sigs. Some have rank and position included.

I have quickly looked through them. Nothing looking like your dad's name. What rank did he hold?

I believe you can't PM me for a while as a new member to the site. I am willing to supply these docs to you, should you wish to look at them? A memory stick, which you should send me, should do the job.

Are you in Uk? We can discuss method of sending copies once address is known.

Regards
Alan in Kings Lynn



PS. These docs attached refer to a complaint about  cars, I presume CCG provided these ones? Approx 100 cars being off limits at a weekend and at a Boxing match.  

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