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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 10:31 | |
| This photograph was taken by Public Relations HQ BAOR 1952...any ideas of the location ![photo BAORParade1952II_zps26d37e39.jpg](https://2img.net/h/i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac38/historicsteve/BAOR/BAORParade1952II_zps26d37e39.jpg) | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 15:03 | |
| Could it be Bielefeld, can't think of many 3 storey barracks in Germany apart from Barker Bks, Paderborn? | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | BobG Lt Col
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 16:51 | |
| Could be any one of the many Whermacht barracks we used. Looks similar to Shiel Bks, Verden, Caithness Bks was similar, there again could be either of the two similar bks in Luneburg or Nienberg or Hamm, etc. | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 17:10 | |
| Defiantly not any of the two the Verden Barracks...stationed in both and been back taking photos...see main website...it seems all had 3 story accommodation blocks…hoping somebody will recognise 100% | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 18:02 | |
| Definitely not Barker Bks Paderborn or Assaye Bks Nienburg. | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | ciphers Maj Gen
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Number of posts : 978 Age : 90 Localisation : Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada V2S 7C5 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick (1951) - BAOR (1952 -1954)-(Herford - Bunde - Munster) - Japan (Kure) - Korea (Pusan - Seoul) - Cyprus (Nicosia) - Suez Op (1st Guards Brigade) - UK (63 Sigs Regt TA, Southampton) Registration date : 2008-06-30
![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 13/2/2014, 20:32 | |
| BS parade though, even have a Colour Guard ...
Len (Ciphers) | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 14/2/2014, 08:00 | |
| Could it be St Barbara's Bks, Fallingbostel. I remember the Accn Blocks faced directly on to the Square? | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 14/2/2014, 16:09 | |
| Definitely not Fallingbostal or Hohne, the bks were all just two storeys. | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 14/2/2014, 16:50 | |
| Elizabeth Barracks, Minden had similar barrack blocks. | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | "john boy" Maj Gen
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 15/2/2014, 16:14 | |
| ![Spot the barracks OttoWeddingen_Harewood](https://2img.net/h/www.forgottenhistory.co.uk/Images/Content/Photos/BarracksHeaderPhotographs/OttoWeddingen_Harewood.jpg) could this be the one? ![Very Happy](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png) looks very similar | |
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | ronnie french SSgt/CSgt
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 14:17 | |
| that is harwood bks herford,and that main block was r.h.q. with the guard room at the entance | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | jimsigs1 Let Gen
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 14:39 | |
| John Boy, Looks as if you have identified the barracks. Looks like either Hammersmith or Wentworth Barracks in Herford (I always seem to get those two mixed up ). Here is a view exactly like Steve's photo showing the two blocks with the smaller block to the right (the one with 7 dormer windows in the roof). From this angle with the larger of the two blocks to the right, it looks as if those house in front appear to have been built over the old barrack square in Steve's photo with the parade in action.I've taken this from Bing Maps ![Spot the barracks HerfordBarracks_zps320ba56d](https://2img.net/h/i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/jimsigs_photos/HerfordBarracks_zps320ba56d.jpg)
Here is a view of all of the barrack blocks and the two in question are the only two blocks side by side. ![Spot the barracks Barracks_zps0fe32076](https://2img.net/h/i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/jimsigs_photos/barracks_zps0fe32076.jpg) | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 14:47 | |
| the one of harwood bks rhq block the 2nd floor 2nd and 3rd windows from the left was my room and regt sports stores,that was in 56/57 | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | jimsigs1 Let Gen
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 14:50 | |
| Ronnie, I don't think Steve's photo is of Harewood Barracks. Those blocks in Harewood were not in line if you look at an overhead view. They were staggered as per the attached photo. One more thing, I was in Harewood Barracks between 1952-4 and there is no similarity between Steve's photo of the parade and harewood. ![Spot the barracks Harewood_zpse622974d](https://2img.net/h/i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/jimsigs_photos/Harewood_zpse622974d.jpg) | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | ronnie french SSgt/CSgt
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 17:21 | |
| jimsigs,i am on about johnboys photo of the single block,at harwood bks there was 5 main blocks,the block opp it r h,q was the officers block | |
| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | "john boy" Maj Gen
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 18:05 | |
| I have been following this thread with interest as it makes a pleasant break from Steve and my ongoing efforts to unravel the mysteries of BAOR in the immediate post WW2 era.
May I offer the following thoughts
1. The setting is a Hitler era Barracks with three not two storey barrack blocks in a semi rural/edge of town location. A low range of hills is visible in the background.
2. The Band providing appropriate martial music is dressed in Infantry, not Cavalry, accoutrements and is definitely not the Band of the Royal Artillery, one of which was based in Germany at the time.
3. I suggest the parade may be at the start or end of the Annual Administrative Inspection (future FFR) which many contributors may recall with horror. The Reviewing Officer could be the Brigade Commander with his Brigade Major to his left rear. The newly raked gravel, white washed stones on the approach to the Saluting Dias is a further clue.
If we stick with the Infantry theme, in 1952 BAOR was at its zenith in terms of Infantry Battalions under command. Berlin can be discounted as well as the Canadians in Hannover, the Danes in Itzehoe and the Norwegians in northern Schleswig Holstein.
This leaves the following towns as possible locations, all of which had British Infantry Battalions stationed there according to my sources/memory in the early 50s. Brunswick, Buxtehude, Celle,Dortmund, Duisburg, Goslar, Gottingen, Hubbelrath, Iserlohn, Krefeld,Luneburg, Minde, Munster, Osnabruck, Sennelager and Wuppertal
A number have already been eliminated by earlier contributors, to this list I would add Munster and Osnabruck where the Infantry Battalions were housed in post war new build bungalow style prefab barrack blocks. Other locations do not meet my basic criteria
My suggested location would be Clifton Barracks Minden. If you go to the original site Home Page, click on Locations, then Clifton Barracks Minden there is a lengthy thread, including photographs, which indicate this could have been the site of the 1952 photo | |
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 18:25 | |
| - john boy wrote:
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I think we may be close here see what you think Roberts Barracks Osnabruck Top photo Sixth man from the left Looks like he's just been dragged out of the boozer It's Gordon, isn't it ? | |
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | "john boy" Maj Gen
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | "john boy" Maj Gen
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 19:01 | |
| - gingerjim wrote:
- buller bks
What the feck when were jerry posted to RCT Aldershot news to me!!!!! | |
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| ![Go down](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | | steve LE Maj
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![Spot the barracks Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Spot the barracks 16/2/2014, 20:50 | |
| - JPW wrote:
- I have been following this thread with interest as it makes a pleasant break from Steve and my ongoing efforts to unravel the mysteries of BAOR in the immediate post WW2 era.
May I offer the following thoughts
1. The setting is a Hitler era Barracks with three not two storey barrack blocks in a semi rural/edge of town location. A low range of hills is visible in the background.
2. The Band providing appropriate martial music is dressed in Infantry, not Cavalry, accoutrements and is definitely not the Band of the Royal Artillery, one of which was based in Germany at the time.
3. I suggest the parade may be at the start or end of the Annual Administrative Inspection (future FFR) which many contributors may recall with horror. The Reviewing Officer could be the Brigade Commander with his Brigade Major to his left rear. The newly raked gravel, white washed stones on the approach to the Saluting Dias is a further clue.
If we stick with the Infantry theme, in 1952 BAOR was at its zenith in terms of Infantry Battalions under command. Berlin can be discounted as well as the Canadians in Hannover, the Danes in Itzehoe and the Norwegians in northern Schleswig Holstein.
This leaves the following towns as possible locations, all of which had British Infantry Battalions stationed there according to my sources/memory in the early 50s. Brunswick, Buxtehude, Celle,Dortmund, Duisburg, Goslar, Gottingen, Hubbelrath, Iserlohn, Krefeld,Luneburg, Minde, Munster, Osnabruck, Sennelager and Wuppertal
A number have already been eliminated by earlier contributors, to this list I would add Munster and Osnabruck where the Infantry Battalions were housed in post war new build bungalow style prefab barrack blocks. Other locations do not meet my basic criteria
My suggested location would be Clifton Barracks Minden. If you go to the original site Home Page, click on Locations, then Clifton Barracks Minden there is a lengthy thread, including photographs, which indicate this could have been the site of the 1952 photo Good try JPW...but the Clifton Barracks blocks are smaller with six windows between the doors and have two dormer windows in the ends...my photo has seven windows and one dormer window in the ends | |
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