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 1947 FIRST ALLIED CROSS-COUNTRY 12 APRIL IN HANNOVER

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In 1947 took the first Allied cross-country place in Hannover/Germany on the 12 april 1947. (The Allied championships) Zatopek won the race, the Frenchman LaHoucine was second and the Belgian athlete Wauters Frans was Third. The British Army organised this event (1st Britisch Corps). Nine Countries were present, GB, USA, F, B, NL, Tjecho-Slowakia,Norway, Luxemburg and Danmark.
I would like to know the complete results of this race and the names of the participants from each country.
Could you eventually give me addresses of people who could help me please.
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The Belgian Athlete Etienne Gailly, tird in the Marathon from London ad the Olympic Games was on the 11 place in Hannover

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Other Belgian results in Hannover Ramaeckers 18th and Feremans 20th.

There were 4 tjech athletes on the start, I know only one name, Emil Zatopek.
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The Farawell Dinner on 12 april 1947 was in the 125 Transit Camp, 1th British Corps (Allied Sports Control)
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The French athlete Henri Leveque was also present.
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country classification: 1. France; 2.Tjecho-Slowakia; 3.Belgium; 4. Danmark; 5. U.K.
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HQ 1st (British) Corps District disbanded 1 Jul 47 their historical records at Kew http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk finished at the end of Mar 47, therefore your request is very difficult to reply to the information you require, have looked at the records for 5th Infantry Division who were responsible for Hannover at this time but I am afraid no records of this event

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Thanks to Czech friends I found the names of the Czech team in Hannover :

Emil Zátopek (1922-2000) , Karel Zabloudil (?), Jindra Roudný (1924-2015), Lubos Vomáček (01/07/1923), Ladislav Jan Kořán (1925-1991)
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Suggest that the (Royal since 2010) Army Physical Training Corps would have been knee deep in staging and running the Cross Country Event at Hannover - try here:

Address
Army School of PT,
Fox Lines,
Queen's Avenue,
Aldershot, GU11 2LB
Tel 01252 787852

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www.army.mod.uk/raptc/30473.aspx
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Here the 6 names of the Duch (Holland) athletes who participated ad the Hannover Cross-Country:
C. Roos, Marechaussee first class, Oldenzaal - P.Schreuder, Regiment Grenadiers, Amersfoort - Jaap Meyer, Serg. S.I. S.R.O.I. Breda - C.J. Pelle, 1th R.I. Assen - J.L. Jaspers, Seg. 12 R.I. Assen - J. Roosens, Seg. 12 R.I. Assen.
With thanks to Paul Van Gool.
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The names of the Belgian athletes:
Wauters (3th) - Gailly (11th) - Schoonjans (18th) - Ramaeckers (18th) - Feremans (25th)
Geuens (D.N.S. ?) - Marquet (D.N.S.?)
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Here wat Michal Procházka wrote me about the Czech runners in Hannover:
In the end, it inspired me to write a historical article about those five Czech runners for our “Atletika” magazine. Because there is great story behind: Three of those five (Kořán, Zabloudil, Vomáčka) emigrate from Czechoslovakia after communists took force in 1948 – all ended in USA. Ladislav Kořán came back to family and his business with electronic music instruments (company Resonet) but was terribly arrested for 18 (!) years, had to work in Jáchymov uranium mines … In 1968 Kořán fled again, worked with Cousteau in the USA, was CEO at surf complex at Saipan isle in Pacific, registered some 2,500 patents … Really amazing. Kořán and Roudný died in 2015, when they were both 90+!
Michal
P.S. Unfortunately we did not find anyone with the results …

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Results of the cross-country found in a French Magazine (L'Athletisme n° 37 from 1 may 1947)
1.Zatopek (CZ) 18'39"; 2.Lahoucine (F) 19'43"; 3. Frans Wauters (B) ; 4.Léveque (F); 5.Lamouda (F); 6.Zomacka ? (CZ) probably Lubos Vomáček (?): 7.Abdallah (F); 8.Pauly (F); 9.Jindra Roudný (CZ); 10.Boucher (F); 11. Etienne Gailly (B); 12. Anderson (DK?); 13.Jaap Meyer (NL); 14.Davis (?)

Country classification: 1. France 18pst; 2.Tjecho-Slowakia 45pts; 3.Belgium 47 pts; 4. Danmark 69pts; 5. U.K. 81 pts: 6. Netherlands 98 pts; 7.Norway 125 pts; 8.Luxemburg 155pts; 9. USA 198 pts.
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Here the names of the French athletes.
Lahoucine (4e Regiment de tirail-Marocain de Taza) - Pauly (Garde Rép. de Paris) - Lévêque (Regiment de Sap. Pompiers de Paris) - Lamouda (1e Regiment de tirail-Algériens de Blida) - Abdallah (382e Comp. de tirail-Maroccains de Châlon-sur-Saône) - Boucher (16e Batail. de chass. à pied d'Arras)
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This not what you are looking for!  However, it may be of interest?  First Allied Cross-Country. Scotland?

There is a French and a Belgium name mentioned!


You will have to play around until you find the correct video.  The correct video starts with an Aeroplane in Berlin.

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Welt im Film 48/194617.04.1946



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There is a short piece at the the time:   0:04:50.01
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The cross-country in Ayr Schotland on 30 march 1946 wasn't an allied (Army) competition.
It was the first competition after World War II between 6 countries , Engeland, Belgium, France, Wales,Schotland and Ireland. The first time this competition was hold in 1898 (only Engeland and France) In 1923 Belgium participated ad this competition for the first time.
More information you may find here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_International_Cross_Country_Championships
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