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PostSubject: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   21/2/2010, 20:05

I found this image quite a while ago, and have just come across it again.



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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   22/2/2010, 09:12

Paul,
I have a relative who lives very close to Itzehoe. I will make inquiries!

Alan
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   30/10/2015, 01:26

27 Fd Regt RA

The Regiment adopted the role of a field training unit at Itzehoe in 1946 and in 1947 the batteries were renumbered to;
6 Bty (from 3 Bty),
23 Bty (from 5 Bty),
112 Bty (from 28 Bty)
and 137 Bty (from 16 Bty - which had been issued with x 240 mm guns - super heavy - on 21 Oct 1945)

later that year the regient returned to UK - Godshall Park Camp, Twycross, Nuneaton
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   30/10/2015, 10:29

There were two barracks in Itzehoe and also have an update on 27 Regt as taken from Historical Records at Kew

8 Jul 46 – 1st Heavy Regiment RA joined the Guards Division from 3rd Army Group Royal Artillery of 49th (West Riding) Infantry Division – Borgard Barracks Itzehoe relieving the 4th Battalion Coldstream Guards in Eckenforde on internal security duties – to Richmond Barracks Itzehoe – command to BAOR School of Artillery
31 Dec 46 – to Schleswig-Holstein Sub Area Hamburg District on the disbandment of the Guards Division
1 May 47 – redesignated 27th Heavy Regiment RA
early 48 – to UK

12 Mar 48 – 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group – HQ Marine Barracks Schleswig replaced Schleswig-Holstein Sub Area and 7th Battalion Parachute Regiment moved into Itzehoe with 334 Forward Observation Battery RA

16 Jul 48 – 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group redesignated 16th Independent Parachute Brigade Group and 7th Battalion Parachute Regiment redesignated 3rd Battalion Parachute Regiment

Sep 48 – to Hannover District relieved by the Danish Brigade Group

JPW and myself are endeavouring to piece together the early days of unit movement in BAOR
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   1/11/2015, 11:22

Steve

I have a third Barracks in the Itzehoe area briefly occupied by the British Army. The former Waldersee Training area, known as Conway Barracks (the influence of 53 Welsh Division in very clear), in the Bundeswehr era was known as Ibbenbeckstedler Training Area.

Have yet to confirm which barracks was occupied by the British Para Battalion Group/ Norwegian Battalion (very briefly) and the Danes
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   30/5/2017, 21:42

Danish Contingent needed plenty of space:

Borgard Barracks Hanseaten-Kaserne (Wehrmacht) BAOR 1949
(Denmark 1949-1958 Garrison HQ Danish Brigade in Germany)
Conway Barracks Waldersee-Kaserne (Wehrmacht) BAOR 1949
Richmond Barracks Gallwitz-Kaserne (Wehrmacht)

http://www.fnmuseet.dk/aarskrift/the.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   31/5/2017, 10:44

The writer of the link clearly did not have access to documentation held at Kew

My research has yet to start on 8/30 Corps – however from my rough notes:

8 May 45 – Hanseaten-Kaserne later Borgard Barracks and Gallwitz-Kaserne later Richmond Barracks were side by side in Itzehoe as a SS Hospital and PW/Displaced Persons Camp

HQ 7th Armoured Division was in requisitioned civilian accommodation in the town
1 Jul 46 – to Bad Rothenfelde

HQ 22nd Armoured Brigade was located in the accommodation when the divisional HQ was in Berlin

10 Jan 46 – 8th King’s Royal Irish Hussars
Borgard Barracks
23 Jul 46 – to Lingen

20 Apr 46 – 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
Richmond Barracks – A Squadron from 22 Nov 45
14 Jul 46 – to Munster

8 Jul 46 – 1st Heavy Regiment RA
Borgard Barracks Itzehoe to Richmond Barracks Itzehoe
1 May 47 – redesignated 27th Heavy Regiment RA
Mar 48 – to UK

24 Mar 47 – recorded as a Displaced Persons Camp Lockstedter Lager formally Waldersee Kaserne – referred to as Itzehoe in documentation but outside of Itzehoe-Land and nearer Kellinghausen – must assume when the Itzehoe Barracks were cleared some inmates came here – today Lockstedter Lager is now Hohenlockstedt

16 Jul 45 – 1st Royal Tank Regiment (in Berlin 29 Aug 45 to 16 Mar 46)
13 Jul 46 – to Detmold

Various divisional sub units were also based here
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   1/6/2017, 11:35

My (independent) research notes support Steve's latest input.

The Borgward/Richmond Barracks complex must have been capable of housing atleast fifteen hundred service personnel.

In addition there was a very significant Control Commission Germany presence in the town at this time some of whom must have been based in the former Hitler era barracks.


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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   1/6/2017, 13:47

Thanks JPW

Indeed a very large complex

 photo Itzehoe_zpsjvd4kwae.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   20/1/2018, 22:22


Locations around Itzehoe:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiherr-von-Fritsch-Kaserne_(Breitenburg)#/media/File:Karte_des_Deutschen_Reiches_von_1893,_Itzehoe,_(Ausschnitt),_5820112c_-_Kopie.jpg

Bw used this camp (near the former Arty Range) for a Hel Unit in the 60s

https://www.geschichtsspuren.de/forum/lost-militar-flugplatz-hungriger-wolf-t11886.html

it had, during WW2, been called Graf-von-Waldersee-Kaserne, at Lochstadt (part of the larger Amt (community) of Kellinghausen) around 8 km NE of Itzehoe, Kr Steinburg. The Heeresmunitionsanstalt Lochstadt was part of the military use up to the end of WW2 - the Muna then became a medical supplies factory. (In the 1950s following land reforms the area was renamed Hohenlochstadt).

Other Barracks in the Town:
Alte Kaserne, Kaiserstrasse
http://www.ak-ansichtskarten.de/ak/91-old-postcard/2578-weitere-Ansichten-Itzehoe/6674058-AK-Itzehoe-Alte-Kaserne
Used by Wehrmacht up to 1945 - British use unknown

Gudewill Kaserne, Oelixdorfstrasse ?

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PostSubject: Re: Is this the Barracks in Itzehoe?   22/1/2018, 11:01

Paddy

As you know research into the British presence in Itzehoe is on going (the Stadt Archivist awaits the results with interest)

Even though Itzehoe was the administrative centre for Kreis Steinberg and a significant military garrison it would appear that the majority of British units were deployed outside the town and barracks in particular 1945

I believe 65 (Norfolk Yeomanry) Anti Tank Regiment were the first permanent British occupants in early May 45 but were based in the Prinzesshof not a barracks complex.

Have yet to identify any British occupants of your 1945 Breitenburg Kaserne nor exactly where HQ 7 Armoured Division were based when they first moved in from Albersdorf in late June 45 (lack of the proper military map is a major problem).
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