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Shelldrake
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PostSubject: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 11:09

Thought this might be of interest:-


http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/51012
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 12:28

Yeah.

I can just hear our Honourable MPs on THAT subject.

"National Defence Medal ? We've just given 'em a dam' Veteran's Badge" !
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 14:04

National Defence Medal -- just for donning the uniform?
Might just as well give it to a bustdriver or a traffic warden. As Brum says, we have the veterans badge for just that and another medal would just devalue the whole idea of them. If we srved in an area of conflict (except Aldershot on pay night!), we received a medal and that is good enough for me.
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 14:15

Shelldrake wrote:
Thought this might be of interest:-


http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/51012
Rotten English grammar-"That"bounce 
Should be "who",but then who wrote that load of Scheise?
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 14:23

Thought it should have read "Wot wore".
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 18:25

We must issue medals for those who attended the firing range next.
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 18:32

Cliffo wrote:
National Defence Medal -- just for donning the uniform?
Might just as well give it to a bustdriver or a traffic warden. As Brum says, we have the veterans badge for just that and another medal would just devalue the whole idea of them. If we srved in an area of conflict (except Aldershot on pay night!),  we received a medal  and that is good enough for me.

Its not so long ago that "the Land Army Girls" received a medal, I never quite understood why when the women who served in the ATS during WW11 have had no recognition.

Cliffo you mentioned Aldershot, I think we QARANC'S deserved a medal for daring to enter the NAAFI Club in Aldershot on a saturday night!!
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 18:39

annieP wrote:
Cliffo wrote:
National Defence Medal -- just for donning the uniform?
Might just as well give it to a bustdriver or a traffic warden. As Brum says, we have the veterans badge for just that and another medal would just devalue the whole idea of them. If we srved in an area of conflict (except Aldershot on pay night!),  we received a medal  and that is good enough for me.

Its not so long ago that "the Land Army Girls" received a medal, I never quite understood why when the women who served in the ATS during WW11 have had no recognition.

Cliffo you mentioned Aldershot, I think we QARANC'S deserved a medal for daring to enter the NAAFI Club in Aldershot on a saturday night!!

Seems like a reasonable request to me
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:03

Thanks Eric farao 
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:12

annieP wrote:
Thanks Eric farao 

NAAFI bar Fort George Londonderry 1972, the WRAC gals who dared to enter were some of the bravest women on this planet LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:20

Annie, I thought that entering the Aldershot NAAfi club on a Saturday night was all part of the QUARANC basic training - sort of tending the injured whilst avoiding the advances of the enemy!
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:23

It was all good fun and you should know Cliffo having served in Aldershot and Farnborough
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:28

Annie, my sister in law was a QUARANC in the early/mid 50s but i suspect that was long before your time!
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:33

annieP wrote:
It was all good fun and you should know Cliffo having served in Aldershot and Farnborough  

Just looking at your profile where in Hong Kong were you stationed?
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Registration date : 2010-03-02

PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:37

Eric England wrote:
annieP wrote:
Thanks Eric farao 

NAAFI bar Fort George Londonderry 1972, the WRAC gals who dared to enter were some of the bravest women on this planet LOL.

What's this ?
"NAAFI bar, Fort George"?
When we were there all we got was tin huts and a bloody big ship !
(We got a medal though Cool 
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 19:50

brum wrote:
Eric England wrote:
annieP wrote:
Thanks Eric farao 

NAAFI bar Fort George Londonderry 1972, the WRAC gals who dared to enter were some of the bravest women on this planet LOL.

What's this ?
"NAAFI bar, Fort George"?
When we were there all we got was tin huts and a bloody big ship !
(We got a medal though Cool 

Yes lots of tin huts and one was used as, and I use the term loosely, a bar. Not sure if it was NAAFI or not but i was a young soldier then. And the big ship was next to the little ship that I managed to sink accidentally, lol.

I used to take a motor launch up the river Boyne to Ebrington to pick up mail and SDS and on one trip I tied the launch up next to the ship, but not being a real sailor I only tied up the front and the tide changed and the launch went under the jetty and sunk.

I got a medal also, but the barsturards sent me back this time to Belfast, North Queen street RUC station next to the New Lodge and you do not get a second medal.
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   2/8/2013, 20:21

Cliffo wrote:
Annie, my sister in law was a QUARANC in the early/mid 50s but i suspect that was long before your time!

I was in the QA's in the late 60's:star: 

And in Hong Kong in 1976/78 based at the BMH and living at Kowloon Tsai
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   3/8/2013, 10:18

Shelldrake wrote:
Thought this might be of interest:-


http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/51012
Is this web site supposed to be taken seriously?
Some enlightened bod is suggesting that Civil Servants should get a medal.



I was a Civil Servant on and off for 30 years, just doing my job. Sad BUT ,in Coronation year I was doing National Service. Where is MY MEDAL??lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   3/8/2013, 17:45

FFS When are they going to give up on this.. Some want a defence medal others want a full set of jubilee medals and a medal for serving in Germany.. Now the coronation is mentioned...If everyone has the same medal it means nothing, a bit like the vets badge...
Oops almost forgot Shelldrake wants his rootie gong...

Is it my imagination that the most shouts are coming from those who served in the 60s and 70s.when there were not a lot going
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   3/8/2013, 20:09

annieP wrote:
 
Its not so long ago that "the Land Army Girls" received a medal, I never quite understood why when the women who served in the ATS during WW11 have had no recognition.

No it was a badge, those in the Womens Uniformed Services (ATS, WAAF, WREN etc) recieved the Defence Medal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Medal_(United_Kingdom)




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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   3/8/2013, 20:34

Once remember seeing an RSM with no medals. Not even a LS & GC !!! Not revealing the Corps/Regt.
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   3/8/2013, 22:18

In the 70's & 80's that was not un-common Jim, many a Senior Rank was a bad boy in his early days!

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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   4/8/2013, 09:36

Just before I was demobbed, in '80, I came across a bloke I hadn't seen since '58.
Taking over as RSM of Woolwich depot, he had one ribbon, the GSM, with (I think), only three bars on it.
Now I think about it he had no LS & GC either.


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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   4/8/2013, 22:04

I wonder what todays Generals have on display medal-wise
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PostSubject: Re: National Defence Medal   5/8/2013, 19:54

jimsigs1 wrote:
I wonder what todays Generals have on display medal-wise

You don't have to be a Gen to have a chest full, most of the WOs & SNCOs in my old Regt are sporting 9 gusting 10!
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