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PostSubject: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime30/1/2009, 19:11

Right you brainy lot!!

I have found a reference to a "Fort Vaux" in Dusseldorf, whereabouts I have not a clue scratch

The years 1960 to 1970 are mentioned, and as the Canadians called their Camps "Forts", and as Dusseldorf is not that far from Iserlohn, Hemer, Soest etc, is it possible that the Canadians had a presence in the City?

Or could it have been a French Station, named after "Fort Vaux" in Verdun?

Go for it, I dare you lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime30/1/2009, 19:30

The only Canadian unit in Duesseldorf was at the Airport,there was a Flt Sgt and a Cpl both loadmasters from the RCAF,these were augmented during the unit rotations by a servicing crew from RCAF Trenton plus an extra loadmaster,also supplementary RCASC personnel to help with the breakdown and loading of the extra baggage and freight and movements of passengers to and from the brigade area. This establishment was increased to include an RCAS Sgt movements operator,the first person to held the job had a new Pontiac yellow convertible,known as the Duesseldorf Vacuum Cleaner because it picked up all the fluff in town.
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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime31/1/2009, 00:02

TonyE wrote:
This establishment was increased to include an RCAS Sgt movements operator,the first person to held the job had a new Pontiac yellow convertible,known as the Duesseldorf Vacuum Cleaner because it picked up all the fluff in town.

Tony,

Does not answer my query, but I like that bit Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime31/1/2009, 00:23

Paul
A large partof Germany including the Rhineland was occupied for a long time by the Napoleonic French army,maybe they built it.
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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime31/1/2009, 00:30

Hmmm,

Worth considering Tony.

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 21:05

Hi Paul

Seems most likely that Fort Vaux is most likely to do with 1st WW as when I googled it it came up with a list of the fallen dating back to 1914. But again it does not talk about the actual Location, I was in Dusseldorf for 5yrs but never heard of it

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 21:37

Hi Paul

There is a mention dated 6 June 1916, "Germans capture Fort Vaux in Verdun attack" don't know if that helps

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 22:18

•Fort-Vaux-Kaserne am Mörsenbroicher Weg
•Flak-Kaserne am Gallberg (Hubbelrath)
•Flieger-Kaserne am Flughafen
•Reitzensteinkaserne an der Graf-ReckeStraße


Hope this is some help Paul

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 22:37

Les

Unfortunately Paul is no longer an active member of this site but the info you provide is of interest I am sure
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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 22:50

Thanks JPW this is the whole para

Die militärische Nutzung der Reitzenstein Kaserne




Nachdem im Jahre 1936 wieder deutsche Truppen im Rheinland einzogen, wurden auch in Düsseldorf in aller Eile Unterkünfte für die neuen Truppenverbände errichtet.
Von 1936 bis 1938 entstanden hier folgende Kasernen:
•Fort-Vaux-Kaserne am Mörsenbroicher Weg
•Flak-Kaserne am Gallberg (Hubbelrath)
•Flieger-Kaserne am Flughafen
•Reitzensteinkaserne an der Graf-ReckeStraße.

Am 10. Januar 1938 bezog die III. Abteilung des Artillerie-Regimentes 26 unter ihrem Kommandeur Major Feuchtinger die Reitzensteinkaserne.
Auch der Regimentsstab und die I. Abteilung des Artillerie-Regimentes 26 werden in die Reitzensteinkaserne verlegt, der am 15. Mai 1938 der heutige Name verliehen wurde.
Im Zweiten Weltkrieg sind die Truppen der Garnison Düsseldorf auf fast allen Kriegsschauplätzen zu finden.

Düsseldorf selbst wird durch Luftangriffe stark zerstört - so auch die Reitzensteinkaserne. Am 17. April 1945 marschieren amerikanische Truppen (8 Panzer und 800 Soldaten) in Düsseldorf ein.




Der nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg noch bewohnbare Teil der Reitzensteinkaserne wird an wohnungssuchende Bürger als Notwohnungen vermietet. Es sind etwa 50 Mietparteien, die hier zu Hause sind, bis sie am 30. Januar 1956 von der Bundesvermögensstelle ein Kündigungsschreiben erhalten, weil die Kaserne, wie es darin heißt »nunmehr kurzfristig für öffentliche Zwecke in Anspruch genommen werden muß«. Dies war der Beginn einer neuen Ära der Reitzensteinkaserne.

Innerhalb von drei Monaten werden die Blöcke 8, 9 und 10 mit 50.000 Kubikmeter umbautem Raum aus der Erde gestampft. Am 16. April 1956 ist Richtfest.

In einem zweiten Bauprogramm folgen die Blöcke 6 und 7. Das Statistische Landesamt, das nach dem Kriege in früheren Gebäuden der Reitzensteinkaserne untergebracht wurde, verbleibt hier; es wird sogar durch ein weiteres Gebäude erweitert. Dieser Komplex wird aus dem neuen Kasernenbereich ausgeklammert.

Die wieder aufgebauten Blöcke der Reitzensteinkaserne (insbesondere 10, 9 und Cool werden zur Keimzelle des Wehrbereichskommandos III und damit des Territorialheeres in Nordrhein-Westfalen. In Block 7 werden andere Dienststellen untergebracht und Block 6 ist später Sitz der Werbereichsverwaltung III.

Im Mai 1956 ist die wiederaufgebaute Reitzensteinkaserne bezugsfertig. Der »Aufstellungsstab Wehrbereichskommando III« unter Oberst i.G. Wolfgang Queisner, der mit zehn Offizieren, einigen Unteroffizieren und Mannschaften und einem Zivilkraftfahrer seit Januar 1956 in der Schadowstraße im ehemaligen Cafe Kürten untergebracht war, zog im Mai desselben Jahres in die Reitzensteinkaserne und bildete damit den Grundstein für die territoriale Kommandobehörde mit über 400 Mitarbeitern.

Im Jahr 1994 wurde zum 01. April das Wehrbereichskommando Ill, im Rahmen der Heeresstruktur 5 und der damit verbundenen Truppenreduzierung, mit der Aufstellung des gemeinsamen Stabes Wehrbereichskommando III und 7. Panzerdivision, in die neue Form umgegliedert.

Das Schicksal der Auflösung, wie es als Folge der Neustrukturierung der Bundeswehr andere Divisionen betraf, blieb somit der 7. Panzerdivision lange Zeit erspart. Im Gegenteil - sie ging, trotz der Abgabe der Panzergrenadierbrigade 19 an die 1. Panzerdivision mit zwei kampfstarken, präsenten Panzerbrigaden und umfangreichen Verbänden der Führungs-, Kampfunterstützungs- und Logistiktruppen gestärkt aus der Umgliederung des Heeres hervor.

Zu Recht konnte die 7. Panzerdivision nach der Zusammenführung als kampfstärkste Division des deutschen Heeres bezeichnet werden.

Eine weitere Umstrukturierung der Streitkräfte brachte dann am 30.06.2006 das endgültige Aus für diesen Großverband und der Struktur des Wehrbereichskommando III.

©️ Auszug aus dem Jahresrückblick der UK WBK III/7.PzDiv e.V. 1994
Letzte Änderung am: 19/10/2011 um 14:23.


©️ 2009 by Heribert Reinartz
anks JPW this is the whole paragraph
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So now I have get my wife to read and translate this for me. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime16/11/2011, 23:15

Now come on you should be able to get most of it, I haven't been out in Germany since 84 and I still managed quite well lol

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PostSubject: Re: Canadians in Dusseldorf?   Canadians in Dusseldorf? Icon_minitime17/11/2011, 08:21

Goes something like this



The military use of the Reitzenstein barracks




After in 1936 again German troops entered in Rhineland, lodgings were also established in Dusseldorf in all haste for the new military units.
From 1936 to 1938 there originated here the following barracks:
Fort Vaux barracks in the Mörsenbroicher way
Anti-aircraft barracks in the mountain Gall (Hubbelrath)
Airman's barracks at the airport
Reitzensteinkaserne in count-Reckestrasse.

On the 10th January, 1938 the III-th department of the artillery regiment 26 under her commander major Feuchtinger covered the Reitzensteinkaserne.
Also the regimental stick and the I-th department of the artillery regiment 26 are moved in the Reitzensteinkaserne which was lent on the 15th May, 1938 the today's name.
In the second world war the troops of the garrison Dusseldorf on almost all theatres of war are to be found.

Dusseldorf itself is strongly destroyed by air raids - thus also the Reitzensteinkaserne. On the 17th April, 1945 American troops (8 tanks and 800 soldiers) march in in Dusseldorf.




The part still inhabitable after the second world war of the Reitzensteinkaserne is rented to house hunter citizens as emergency apartments. About 50 rent parties which are here at home to them are received on the 30th January, 1956 from the federal property place a notice writing because the barracks, how it in it are called » now at short notice for public purposes must be taken up «. This was the beginning of a new era of the Reitzensteinkaserne.

Within three months the blocks 8, 9 and 10 rooms umbautem with 50,000 cubic meters from the earth are rammed. On the 16th April, 1956 is topping-out ceremony.

In the second schedule of work follow the blocks 6 and 7. The statistical regional authorities which was accommodated after the war in earlier buildings of the Reitzensteinkaserne remain here; it is extended even by another building. This complex is ignored from the new barrack area.

The blocks built up again of the Reitzensteinkaserne (in particular 10, 9 and become the germ cell of the military area command III and with it of the territorial army in North Rhine-Westphalia. In block 7 other official places are accommodated and block 6 is a late seat of the canvasser standard management III.

In May, 1956 the rebuilt Reitzensteinkaserne is ready for occupation. The " installation stick military area command III « under colonel i. G. Wolfgang Queisner who was accommodated with ten officers, some noncommissioned officers and teams and a civil motorist since January, 1956 in Schadowstrasse in the former cafe Choosing moved in May of the same year in the Reitzensteinkaserne and formed with it the foundation-stone for the territorial command authority with more than 400 employees.

In 1994 military area command Ill, within the scope of the army structure 5 and the troop reduction linked with it, with the installation of the common stick became the 01st April a military area command III and 7 armoured division, in the new form umgegliedert.

The destiny of the resolution, as it concerned other divisions as a result of the restructuring of the armed forces, remained saved therefore of the 7 armoured division for a long time. On the contrary - she went, in spite of the delivery of the armoured infantryman's brigade 19 to the 1 armoured division with two fight-strong, present armoured brigades and extensive federations of the leadership troops, fight support troops and logistics troops from the Umgliederung of the army out.

Rightly the 7 armoured division could be called after the desegregation the fight-strongest division of the German army.

Then an other restructuring of the armed forces brought on 30.06.2006 final From for this majority federation and the structure of the military area command III.

© extract from the review of the year's events of the WBK III / 7. PzDiv e. V. In 1994
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I don't know which is the more incomprehesible, the text in it's original German or the result of hitting the "Translate" button ! Very Happy study
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Probably the latter Brum lol!
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I can't get the location to come up on google, of course it may be me hmm or on the other hand it may not have been rebuilt, still did manage to find where it should have been :-)

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