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Subject: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 14/6/2021, 22:36
Hello,
My Grandfather was Sgt. Major George Rollo, stationed in Spandau during 49-51 I believe. I am coming to Berlin in August and hope to come to the barracks. My Grandmother Elizabeth, and her 3 children were with him. My Uncle remembers fishing for gold fish in a pond in front of the barracks. Does anyone know where that might be? Thank you in advance!
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 14/6/2021, 23:34
Welcome on board,
I'm sure one of the members knows better BERLIN Spandau area well. Especially the barracks.
I'm not sure how much of the immediate still stand? I am sure the houses near the barracks might still exist.??
Regards Alan
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 14/6/2021, 23:43
Thank you! Yes, I am going to take a look. The way my Uncle describes it, they lived in a bungalow behind the gymnasium. It would be so wonderful to see the area today. I welcome any and all information and or guidance!
steve LE Maj
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 15/6/2021, 08:50
My BAOR research is currently May 45 to Mar 49, however various sources have 1st Battalion Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) in Montgomery Barracks, Lanzendorfer Weg, Kladow, Berlin-Spandau from Apr 50 to Oct 51.
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Subject: Spandau Prison 15/6/2021, 09:38
I have never served in Berlin. I hope I have this map correct of SPANDAU Prison, ??? Bks. Entrance on the Wilhelmstrasse side.
See Spandau Prison marker (Closed)
Regards Alan
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 15/6/2021, 09:55
Number of posts : 736 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 15/6/2021, 11:03
Montgomery Bks in the past. Now the German Bks called Blücher
I am unsure of the full story connection? Yellow line indicates route of the old Border
On this Map in Red. The Border LH corner.
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Subject: The Fish Pond???? at Mongomery Bks, Berlin circa 1949ish 16/6/2021, 09:32
Could this be the elusive fish pond at Montgomery Bks in 1949.
Kind permission of the 'Imperial War Museum', London.
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 16/6/2021, 09:34
Kind permission of 'Imperial War Museum' (IWM), London
See description below the photo
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 16/6/2021, 13:07
The description is not correct. This border was not between the British and Russian sectors of Berlin but between the British sector of Berlin and the Russian zone of occupation which not belonged to Berlin.
Regards Wolfgang
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 16/6/2021, 13:33
Thanks for that Wolfgang,
Good job I didn't make that mistake. Blame it on the Press guys and the War Museum.
I am having enough problems with this Berlin stuff. So if you spot a mistake by me. Please PM me to correct the mistake. Getting Spandau Prison a bit off position was bad enough. I have corrected it now.
I am currently trying to plot the exact exit point accurately of the Transit Corridor into Berlin on my 1990 Berlin Tourist Map.
Alan
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Subject: Re: George Rollo, Sgt Major Black Watch Berlin 16/6/2021, 16:08
Thank you both. Yes, my Gran mentioned her back Garden being against the Soviet zonal border. This makes sense! I can focus my search for bungalows along that border. And the pond is where my Uncle was scolded for "gold fish" fishing as a child.
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