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Shazbaz
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Hello
I’m trying to research my grandads service history, he was in the Merchant Navy then he was in the RAF and the RASC but I don’t know much about it, I don’t know the exact dates of when he was in the RASC but from his letter I have to my nana I’m thinking it was around 1947-1948 because he sends his love to my mum in the letter, she was born on Christmas Day 1946 and in the picture of him holding her as a baby he is in his RASC uniform.
I know he was a Driver
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steve
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Age : 75
Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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Good morning Shazbaz

From my research post VE Day 8 May 45

17 Company (General Transport 3-ton) – GHQ Troops – 57 Transport Column 27 Jul 45 – British Troops Berlin 25 Aug 45 to 15 May 46 – (T-Force Car) 5 Jun 46 – 22 Transport Column 19 Jun 46 – Hamburg District less (T-Force Car) – disbanded mid-48

Engr north-west of Herford 23 Aug 45 – Siemens Factory Siemensstadt Berlin-Charlottenburg 3 Sep 45 – Kavallerie Kaserne later Brooke Barracks Berlin-Spandau 22 Nov 45 – Lohne south-west of Bad Oeynhausen 5 Jun 46 – Cromarty Barracks formerly Douaumont Kaserne Hamburg-Marienthal 24 Mar 47

Hope this helps

https://britisharmyingermany.com (under construction)

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alan8376
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Morning Shazbaz,

Have I missed Grandad's name, Rank and Possibly Service No?

Have you a DOB please. Last 3 digits would suffice


Regards
Alan


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Hi Alan,
My grandads name was George Mead, I don’t know what rank he was but maybe he was a Private, the only details I have are what he wrote on his letter to my nana, I will try to attach a picture of here, his DOB is 22/07/1925
If you can help at all I would be so grateful 😊
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How do I reply to the person who replies please? I seem to be replying to the thread, is this the right way to reply? Sorry I’m trying to work out the site but only have my mobile to access the internet so it’s a bit tricky lol

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I hope the photos can give you some clues about my Grandad, I think he has a stripe on his arm in the picture of him on the motorcycle 😊
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Number of posts : 778
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Sorry Shazbz,


A poor quality recording of details.. Source is the old RASC/RCT and others web site.

I believe these 2x MEAD Surnames are not the person you seek! (DoB and First name are little different).


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Regards
Alan

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Shazbaz
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Aww thank you for trying, I’m not having much luck finding anything about him or his company or his platoon etc
I really appreciate your help though 😊
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Number of posts : 1027
Age : 75
Localisation : near Cuxhaven
Cap Badge : Royal Signals + Royal Engineers
Places Served : Verden-Aller + Willich + Iserlohn + Hameln
Registration date : 2010-02-14

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Shazbaz wrote:
Aww thank you for trying, I’m not having much luck finding anything about him or his company or his platoon etc
I really appreciate your help though 😊

Please scroll up for my post yesterday showing the company movements post VE Day to disbandment
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alan8376
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Number of posts : 778
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Hi Shazbaz,

Yes I am aware of  Steve's notes. We work together on this site. Steve specialises on where Unit may have been. He has special data to back up his results. His info will not normally have information about persons. Sometimes Senior names are included

The source I have provided you with has little personal data. That type of personal information can only be obtained on application to Glasgow. See below: There are two application forms to complete. They normally take a month or two to send you what you have applied for.

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records.

I'll have a quick look at the site I visited again, to see if they hold anything like what Steve has mentioned.

Regards
Alan
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Number of posts : 778
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Here is a typical Journal which includes various units in Hamburg, but not the Coy you seek. Hamburg Car Company  

Additionally, remember I mentioned the lack of peoples names mentioned in these type of Journals, except possibly Sports Competitions, and of course Officers, who are riding the Horses. Of course!


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Regards
Alan

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Wow this is so interesting! I had no idea that this sort of thing went on, I have a picture of assault courses and marching for miles, it is heartening to see that there were things for the lads and lasses to do that could help to make their time away from home more bearable.
Ps I'm sure I'm doing something wrong on this site because when I tried to reply to Steves message on this thread it said that I was unable to post replies and the thread was locked 🤷‍�😵💫 I'm not great with technology lol
Thank you both for all this great information, I really do appreciate your time 😊
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Oooh I'm excited I've just found this in a war diary on ww2 talk, I know it's in 1944 but I don't know what year my grandad moved from raf to RASC could this be his platoon? 1 July 1944
Coy Rear HQ, “D” Pl and 1 section of Wksps moved into location on banks of River Seulles on Caen-Bayeux Road.
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Number of posts : 778
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Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Shazbaz,

Because you are new to this site, that there was originally a restriction on having full access .

I hope someone will spot you are struggling. I thought the Powers that be sort it??

PS. I was in WW2 site yesterday. Good that you found the Diary!


Alan
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I'm slowly finding my way around things 🤣
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I've colorized a photo and think I can identify the patch on my grandads uniform in this picture, it's a different patch to what he has in the other picture, can anyone tell me why this would be?
Thank you,

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Number of posts : 778
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Good Morning,

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The above Formation badge is shown as you probably aware of from the data.

Maybe the one you still seek is shown?

http://www.petergh.f2s.com/flashes.html


Alan

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Thanks Alan,
Could you tell me what it would mean if a soldier was wearing this patch? did soldiers have a different patch every time they were sent to a different place?
I'm trying very hard to understand the formation of the British services but I'm struggling to understand what order all the different layers mean.
Like at one point my grandad was
“D” Plat
17 Coy
RASC (T)
B.O.A.R

Is the bulldog patch related to that part of his time in the service?
On another photo his patch looks like either a 1st 2nd or 8th Army patch but as it's in B&W it's hard to tell.
Do you know how the bulldog relates to a soldier that also wore one of the patches I've mentioned?
I'm just trying to piece things together from old photos of him while I wait for his service records.

Thanks heaps for all your help Very Happy
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Number of posts : 778
Age : 76
Localisation : Norfolk, UK
Cap Badge : REME
Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007.
Registration date : 2009-07-28

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Hi,
Best go to page one of the Link I sent you.   It explains.

If a person changed from a regiment to a different one somewhere! His new unit might have a different
patch. Moving to another theatre of war could also cause a change of patch.
People got to know the patches. Otherwise one might need to wear a sticky tape across his forehead naming who he was with! LoL!

Now to the explanation of the address layout:

D” Plat= D Platoon. Usually a group of 30-50 pers. It could be  more or less pers.
17 Coy= It is usual to split units up into Companies ie. A. B. C . Etc. Some have old Battle names.
RASC (T)= RASC indicates 'Royal Army Service Corps'. Mainly Comprised of Wagons , Cars and other Transport.  (T) in this case indicates the Role they working in. See below!



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B.O.A.R= British Army of the Rhine ie. is a specific area the British were  allocated in Germany.





(T- Force)  Were the Allies tasked in finding the German Secrets before they could be destroyed. eg  Equipment,  Documents,  Torpedoes, Planes, Weapons etc.


Def T-Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Force#Background
In this case, I suspect your family member in RASC, was possibly a Driver of a Wagon or Car, supporting the  British Forces Teams who were searching for secrets!!


Note: I want to keep answers simple!  I can only interpret the family member was in transport support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Force#Background.

Alan

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Thanks Alan

Thank you, I stupidly didn't realize the scale and size of even the platoons not to mention a company! It makes a lot more sense to me now 😊
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