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Subject: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 09:13
Hi Does anyone have records /teams of the BAOR playing the Kiwis in Hamburg in 1946 Martin
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 10:53
Martin/Steveo
I have pulled up a few Rugby photos from the 'Imperial War Museum' (IWM). Photos from 1944. Not 1946 BAOR, of what appears to be presentation Cup by Senior British Officers to Inter KIWI Units of 8th Army.
I will see if there any BAOR 1946!
Alan
PS. I have found this Rugby BAOR 1946. There is NO photo to view. It may just be a Dinner Celebration, and drinks? Object details
Category Souvenirs and ephemera Production date 1946 Catalogue number LBY BAOR 257
Not a game photo?
You are going to need to order the photo from IWM.
Send me your email via this media. Delete it after I reply to you. Are you in UK? It seems a straight forward system. You will have to follow the info they need. I have just received how to order. I will forward it when I have yor email. I will also send the other Rugby photos as well.............
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 11:29
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 11:32
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 11:34
Delete photo
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 11:37
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 12:21
What is the interest in this one Rugger Match? I reckon I have found what you seek. 12-0 to the Kiwis!
Alan
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:20
My Dad played for the his Regiment in the Finals in 1946. He also said he played for The BAOR against the Kwis in Hamburg So I have been trying to find out about the match ECT Dad passed in 1999 but have done a lot of research on his DDay landings all the way to Hamburg. I also visited the park last year where they played Rugby,
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:26
Hi Alan Just saw the rest of your your messages . I should have read the first one first I need to send you my email after a week because I am a new member Mart
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:29
Dad was in the London Welsh Royal Artillery Yes I live in Wales
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:39
Hi Alan I’m going to the IWM next Sunday will I be able to see these photos? Mart
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:45
Hi, I don't know where the photos are stored. There are 2/3 different parts.
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 19:48
Check your Messages. I have sent you my emeil address
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 20:49
It’s not coming through It may because I’m a new member?
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 21:01
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 11/12/2021, 22:05
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 13/12/2021, 11:28
Great photos Alan Certainly getting closer to finding out thank you for your efforts. This match at Wuppertal stadium was played in Bayern Munich The match I’m looking for is at Bahrenfeld Stadium Hamburg on the 16th March 1946 I’m sure now it was the British Combined Services Regards Martin
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 13/12/2021, 11:51
Steve, I am now writing instructions to, as far as I know you can order a photo, which is no longer displayed.
As far as I can tell. Photo Code ' LBY BAOR 258' is from Hamburg. .
Explain you want to know how much and how to Order the photo qty 1 for personal use only. You don't want a Licence etc.
Include the code I gave you. It is a photo. Description ? They will reply to your query. Asking various questions. I have never ordered. So good luck.
Don't under estimate costs when dealing with IWM!!!!! One photo might cost £30-50! The photo might be the wrong one for you?
Suggest NOT turning up at IWM (Closed Sat and Sun).
Why would Wuppertal Stadium not be in Wuppertal?
Alan
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 13/12/2021, 14:15
Cheers Alan I got the information for Wuppertal stadium from a Webb search and the New Zealand rugby history site which gave where they played in Germany. I’ll chase up IWM regarding the information you sent me. I’m a little confused with them IWM shutting Sat and Sunday as I have a ticket for Sunday morning. But will check on line now to see what’s going on. Again many thanks the information Martin Ps My German half brother is also keen to know, we visited Hamburg Oct 2020 ( in between lockdowns) we went to Stade park where his unit was stationed. I compiled a book from D Day to Hamburg with map references. Just waiting for this dam Covid to go, so we can follow their route
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 13/12/2021, 14:41
IWM open. But!
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 13/12/2021, 17:10
Steve, See my last message re Sat/Sun at IWM.
Alan
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 14/12/2021, 09:04
Steveo13 wrote:
My Dad played for the his Regiment in the Finals in 1946. He also said he played for The BAOR against the Kwis in Hamburg So I have been trying to find out about the match ECT Dad passed in 1999 but have done a lot of research on his DDay landings all the way to Hamburg. I also visited the park last year where they played Rugby,
Taken from the 8th Corps District Historical Records held at Kew Public Records Office:
The KIWIS will be playing a BAOR Combined Services XV v Kiwis at the Bahrenfeld Stadium, Hamburg, on Sat 16 March 1946 kick off 1430 hours, admission is free – tickets not required, the capacity of the ground is stand 1,000
Sorry nothing further recorded, hope this helps.
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 14/12/2021, 16:36
Many thanks Alan Appreciated your help Regards Martin
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 15/12/2021, 11:26
Martin, I'd appreciate a reduced copy of the photo, that is IF, it is the correct one?
Ok, you can mail it me, if you don't want to put it on view!
Alan
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Subject: Re: BAOR rugby team 1946 15/12/2021, 12:55