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Subject: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 19/8/2024, 13:36
My cousin Trooper 23403701 Alexander Cunningham Corstorphine was killed in a traffic accident on 14 March 1958 while serving with BAOR. His death record shows SCHIEMDE as the place but I can't find on a map. Any help would be appreciated
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alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 763 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 19/8/2024, 20:32
Was the Death Record issued by the Germans or British?
If British. I suspect spelling mistake?
Alan
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 690 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Traffic Incident 1958 19/8/2024, 22:14
ARMED FORCES MEMORIAL ROLL OF HONOUR TODAY TOMORROW FOREVER
Last name: CORSTORPHINE First name(s) Alexander Cunningham Regiment: RTR Rank: Tpr Service Army Service Number: 23403701 Date of Birth: 05/05/1936 Age: 21 Date of Death: 14/03/1958 Included on the Armed Forces Memorial* Yes Included on Roll of Honour Yes
A nearby village east of Detmold and near the old Federal Route 1 was Schieder -Schwalenberg (formed in 1970 from the rural communes of Schieder, Brakelsiek, Schwalenberg, Lothe, Ruensiek, Wöbbel, Siekholz and Kreienberg). It is a Kur-Ort (minor spa town) with around 8,500 residents. in a land area of 60 sq kms/23 sq miles. (The NL Forces were at Blomberg and airfield shown was part of their asset!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schieder-Schwalenberg
Stadt Schieder-Schwalenberg Der Bürgermeister Domäne 3 32816 Schieder-Schwalenberg
Last edited by Pborn4 on 20/8/2024, 14:17; edited 4 times in total (Reason for editing : (and the Dutch!))
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 690 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 19/8/2024, 22:51
Ref above vis-a-vis 7 RTR in Detmold.
7 RTR was subsumed by/amalgamated into 4 RTR in 1959, 4 RTR moved from Fallingbostel to Hohne during 1959
alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 763 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 20/8/2024, 07:22
Thks from Alan..
Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 690 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 20/8/2024, 14:18
Tpr Corstorphine: death recorded on the Armed Forces Memorial * (*The Armed Forces Memorial is a national memorial in the United Kingdom, dedicated to the 16,000 servicemen and women of the British Armed Forces killed on duty or through terrorist action since after the Second World War.)
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Pborn4 Brig
Number of posts : 690 Localisation : Between Hannover and Herford, off all main routes Cap Badge : Not even a reservist now - have been Pborn3 Places Served : Oswestry 1965, Paderborn to 1971, NE Dist, Munsterlager from 1974, Sennelager (1976 to 2012) Registration date : 2016-12-16
Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE? 23/8/2024, 20:08
Tpr Corstorphine RTR
Thinking on - the depths of Army procedure!
Any accidental death especially from Road Traffic Incident (not called RTA anymore!) would elicit:
Board of Inquiry - to exam and record all circumstances
Board of Adjustment - to settle the financial and property account of the deceased.
Both are legal records and the actual papers have to be held for a minimum of 50 years - usually at the Army Documentation Record Office of the deceased, (1958 - 2009) RAC/RTR Manning and Records? however; Unit Records include a Registry Book where each page resembles an AF A2 (Report of a Board of Inquiry) and a manuscript copy of the actual AF A2, the Convening Order (Part 1 Order) and a Precis of the findings and results are retained for 100 years after the last entry in the book. Assume 7 RTR record book was last used in 1959 BEFORE amalgamation - there has to be a further record of circumstances of the death. Just a few thoughts on what we did BEFORE photocopies.
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Subject: Re: Have you heard of a place called SCHMIEDE?