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PostSubject: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/7/2009, 09:54

Have now produced a blog for anybody interested in where the Royal Signals served in BAOR later BFG from 1945 onwards up to 1947 information is sketchy but hope thereafter is more or less correct but independent signal troops have not been included and information is limited to location dates and command look forward to hearing from you if you can make any amendments or add more details
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/7/2009, 16:55

Steve, good blog .. jut one thing, I was posted to 6 Armd Div Sigs in February 52, I with other 6 Div Sigs were temporarily guests of 11 Armoured Div Sigs in Wentworth Barrack, Hereford ..

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/7/2009, 17:54

Yes, an excellent blog.

I arrived at 1 Div HQ & Sig Regt in Sep '69 and it was organised more or less the way you show it, post BRUIN, and it stayed that way until I left in '73.

The only amendments I would make are that 1 Sqn, Charlie & Delta Tps formed the 2 Div Comcens (not Comheads) as well as supplying all the Radio Relay.

2 Sqn in fact had 4 Tps A1 to A4. A1 to A3 formed the radio villages for the 3 Comheads (Main, Step-up and Rear). Not too sure about A4 Tp. I know they had D11s so could have been the rear link Tp. Maybe they also provided the rebros but I stand to be corrected on that.

3 Sqn, as you say consisted of Bravo Tp (Main & Step-up, which were later redesignated Oscar & Papa), Echo Tp (Rear), Line Tp which did what all Lineys do plus an RA Tp and an RE Tp which were admin for the RA & RE personell who manned the CRA & CRE branch vehicles of the Div HQ.

Cheers/Mike
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/7/2009, 19:12

ciphers wrote:
Steve, good blog .. jut one thing, I was posted to 6 Armd Div Sigs in February 52, I with other 6 Div Sigs were temporarily guests of 11 Armoured Div Sigs in Wentworth Barrack, Hereford ..

Len
Hi Ciphers thanks for your confirmation have changed the blog...in later years 11? later 4 Div HQ was in Wentworth and the Sig Regt in Hammersmith as 1 Armd Div is today from 1964 the Sig Regts took over responsibility for Div HQs so would have both barracks
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/7/2009, 19:37

mjm34 wrote:
Yes, an excellent blog.

I arrived at 1 Div HQ & Sig Regt in Sep '69 and it was organised more or less the way you show it, post BRUIN, and it stayed that way until I left in '73.

The only amendments I would make are that 1 Sqn, Charlie & Delta Tps formed the 2 Div Comcens (not Comheads) as well as supplying all the Radio Relay.

2 Sqn in fact had 4 Tps A1 to A4. A1 to A3 formed the radio villages for the 3 Comheads (Main, Step-up and Rear). Not too sure about A4 Tp. I know they had D11s so could have been the rear link Tp. Maybe they also provided the rebros but I stand to be corrected on that.

3 Sqn, as you say consisted of Bravo Tp (Main & Step-up, which were later redesignated Oscar & Papa), Echo Tp (Rear), Line Tp which did what all Lineys do plus an RA Tp and an RE Tp which were admin for the RA & RE personell who manned the CRA & CRE branch vehicles of the Div HQ.

Cheers/Mike

Hi Mike thanks for the updates you arrived a couple of months before I left and realise there were changes in 1969 when the BAOR system changed yet again can remember the RE/RA joining us for exercise but sure they came from nearby units...will amend the blog...remember the HQ RA Bedford RL box bodies having polish applied to the paintwork (yes shiny green) and the tyres being blackened underneath the camnets on exercise lol!
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PS Sure it changed again after you left Verden-Aller
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime24/7/2009, 18:35

Yes Steve. I do remember the shiny green wagons. Around ‘70/’71 we went over to the NATO matt green/dark grey camo colour scheme, and guess who had to repaint all the wagons? Would you believe though that we carried on with the “shiny 1” tradition when it came to vehicle inspections, because we were made to wash the wagons down with diesel so that they would be shiny for inspection. Bull-shit or what?

Cheers/Mike
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime25/7/2009, 15:14

mjm34 wrote:
Yes Steve. I do remember the shiny green wagons. Around ‘70/’71 we went over to the NATO matt green/dark grey camo colour scheme, and guess who had to repaint all the wagons? Would you believe though that we carried on with the “shiny 1” tradition when it came to vehicle inspections, because we were made to wash the wagons down with diesel so that they would be shiny for inspection. Bull-shit or what?

Cheers/Mike

We cleaned our vehicles with diesel beacause of an AOC's inspection at Wildenrath. Crazy thing was that there was a fuel shortage due to the Arab/Israeli war at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime15/8/2009, 00:24

I was at 7 sigs from Jan 62---Nov 65

There were five sqns at this time

HQ Sqn

1 Sqn Radio Relay
3 Sqn line sqn
4 Sqn HQ Main Corps (Casino Main) or ghost when nuked
5 Sqn HQ Rear Corps (Casino Rear)

2 Sqn had moved to 22 Sigs the previous year

What the seventh Sqn was..I have no idea.

Step up????????/
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime24/8/2009, 21:58

Gordon 719 wrote:
I was at 7 sigs from Jan 62---Nov 65

There were five sqns at this time

HQ Sqn

1 Sqn Radio Relay
3 Sqn line sqn
4 Sqn HQ Main Corps (Casino Main) or ghost when nuked
5 Sqn HQ Rear Corps (Casino Rear)

2 Sqn had moved to 22 Sigs the previous year

What the seventh Sqn was..I have no idea.

Step up????????/

62-65 would have been pre-Bruin days. When I was at 1 Div (69-73) 7 Sigs had a Sqn in 439/434/432s to provide a Comhead for Covering Force I think. Maybe that was 6 Sqn? By that time of course 22 Sigs was Corps Rear.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime2/9/2009, 21:55

mjm34 wrote:
Yes, an excellent blog.

I arrived at 1 Div HQ & Sig Regt in Sep '69 and it was organised more or less the way you show it, post BRUIN, and it stayed that way until I left in '73.

The only amendments I would make are that 1 Sqn, Charlie & Delta Tps formed the 2 Div Comcens (not Comheads) as well as supplying all the Radio Relay.

2 Sqn in fact had 4 Tps A1 to A4. A1 to A3 formed the radio villages for the 3 Comheads (Main, Step-up and Rear). Not too sure about A4 Tp. I know they had D11s so could have been the rear link Tp. Maybe they also provided the rebros but I stand to be corrected on that.

3 Sqn, as you say consisted of Bravo Tp (Main & Step-up, which were later redesignated Oscar & Papa), Echo Tp (Rear), Line Tp which did what all Lineys do plus an RA Tp and an RE Tp which were admin for the RA & RE personell who manned the CRA & CRE branch vehicles of the Div HQ.

Cheers/Mike

Yep thats the question I was in A3 troop 73 and we used the D11`s was it not that A4 supplied the radio relay as I moved across to A4 at somepoint or was it the other way round I think I´ll have to clear this up
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime3/12/2009, 14:08

Subject: Rheindahlen - The Kremlin Today at 1:58 pm

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Does anyone remember the Kremlin,a massive building which as well as housing the Rhein Army Signal Centre provided a home to many Nato units.

A look at Google earth shows how much the area has changed since my time in 19 AGSR 1956-58
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime3/12/2009, 22:49

Was that also known as "The big house"?

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime3/12/2009, 22:56

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Have now produced a blog for anybody interested in where the Royal Signals served in BAOR later BFG from 1945 onwards up to 1947 information is sketchy but hope thereafter is more or less correct but independent signal troops have not been included and information is limited to location dates and command look forward to hearing from you if you can make any amendments or add more details
Best regards
Steve
http://royalsignalsbaor.blogspot.com/

I put that on the Links page, along with the Royal Engineers blog.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime4/12/2009, 11:02

Thats the place. I have an almost identical photograph taken in 1957,

I have been wondering if it's still there.
I served in 19AGSR from 56 - 58 . My main job was looking after the 2000 telephones that served the HQ community in the Kremlin and outlying locations. We also had an outstation at Krefeeld.

I remember two of our lads constructing a radio transmitter and when they switched it on BFN went off the air completely.

We used to frequent a hostelry in the woods - Gustav's I think it was called.

Happy days
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime4/12/2009, 23:15

Take a look here Don.A little after your time but you may find it interesting

http://www.28signals.co.uk/
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime4/12/2009, 23:50

Terrific!! I too remember making my way back through the woods after a drinking session. One of the lads was engaged to the landlords daughter so we could go Friday night and stay till Sunday night. there was a quarry full of water in the woods which I fell down one night so I was absolutely soaked - but I didnt feel a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime23/5/2010, 12:11

relay69 wrote:
Yep thats the question I was in A3 troop 73 and we used the D11`s was it not that A4 supplied the radio relay as I moved across to A4 at somepoint or was it the other way round I think I´ll have to clear this up

OK now I'm officially confused Shocked I thought all the radio relay (C50 & C70) were in 1 Sqn. I also thought that 2 Sqn was all "steam" radio.

Harrogate 66? Which intake?
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime26/6/2010, 19:09

Hallo,
my name is Doris and I am from Lemgo.
I am looking for John Randall (Rendell) .
John was 1954 with the Royal Signals 1 Assu in Lemgo.
John was a friend of my family ,Gerda Welsch,Wilhelm Welsch from Brake.
Maybe you can help.
Regards Doris
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime22/12/2010, 13:01

Does anyone remeber 510 Signal troop based in Celle from 1962 attached to The Royal Irish Fusiliers 1962- 1964 and the 1 Bn Royal Anglian Regt 1964 to 1968 approx
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime25/12/2010, 20:29

For MJM34 I was in 66a which if I remember correctly was the last intake in the old Barracks on the north side of >Pennypottlane<
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime25/12/2010, 22:39

Would that be Uniacke or Hildebrand When i was there (59A) we did our basic (1st term) at Hildebrand and then moved up to Uniacke.
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime28/12/2010, 12:23

relay69 wrote:
For MJM34 I was in 66a which if I remember correctly was the last intake in the old Barracks on the north side of >Pennypottlane<
Gordon. wrote:
Would that be Uniacke or Hildebrand When i was there (59A) we did our basic (1st term) at Hildebrand and then moved up to Uniacke.
Cheers Relay. North of Pennypot Lane would be Hildebrand, I was 66C and our Rooksville was the new block in Uniacke. By that time only Phillips Sqn (and MT) were still at Hildebrand, with a couple of the old spiders still in use as classrooms.

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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime28/12/2010, 17:17

I take it the sqdns were moved to Hildebrand when the first re build was in progress?
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the 1st. Btl. Middlesex Regt. plaed foofball against Royal Signals in Glückstadt south west Schleswig Holstein. MDDX won 3 -0 Heinz Johannsen
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PostSubject: Re: Royal Signals in BAOR   Royal Signals in BAOR Icon_minitime14/8/2011, 16:31

Had some great times at JHQ. the big building in the picture was known to us the Big House or some refered to it as the White House. Beeter loved was the Malbourgh Club or the Queensway, then Pops and Eddies............dont know how I survived .....lol
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