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| Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! | |
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alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 778 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 7/3/2010, 21:15 | |
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| | | graham wright WOI
Number of posts : 114 Age : 69 Localisation : liverpool Cap Badge : naafi and efi/raoc Places Served : baor, sardinia, saudi, benbecula and colly Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 8/3/2010, 15:56 | |
| brilliant clip,but please no more ...could murder one right now...graham.. | |
| | | ChrisP WOI
Number of posts : 100 Localisation : Kent, UK Cap Badge : RAMC Places Served : Sennelager, Mil Wing MPH, Ditton, Hohne, Sennelager(again), Newcastle and Rheindahlen Registration date : 2010-02-12
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 8/3/2010, 16:34 | |
| I really shouldn't have looked at that clip. That was the equivalent of torture. There must be a section of the Army Act that Alan could be done under for showing that!! Not the dreaded Section 69 either! I sooo want one - NOW!!! | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 06:42 | |
| Sigh....my upper palate had a 'ghost tingle' the whole time as memories of the tickle a hot spicy currywurst gave it came flooding back.
It did occur to me that a similar operation as that clearly 'corporate' schnell-imbiss (as opposed to some usual mom-and-pop affair we were all used to back in the day) would never go over here in Canada...nor would it ever be allowed to even operate, I am guessing, by the local Health Board, even though it is clearly clean and all.
Ahhh...but if it did wouldn't it be brilliant? Not sure Your Average Canadian would 'get it' so some education might be warranted, but once they did catch on, it would catch on too.
I remember when we first returned from Germany and my mom toyed with the idea of opening a German style Konditorei (coffe/tea house with tortes etc) but never did anything about it because, as she observed, YAC (Your Average Canadian) would want a burger and fries....
I don't know though....I think it might have caught on. Maybe not in 1972 when we got back, but certainly by the 1990's when the huge hotel-operated taverns with their fluorescent lighting and bizarre rules and regulations gave way to smaller, more intimate, pubs some of which even -- gasp! -- opened up in residential neighbourhhoods....unheard of and unimaginable in the 70's in this part of the country "There'd be drunks prowling the streets and passing out in our yards" would have been a common refrain.
I suppose some things just don't 'translate' well from one culture to another even if those cultures really are not that dissimilar. | |
| | | alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 778 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 08:14 | |
| Stephen,
I agree with your comments. Many have tried with 'Bratty' style Schnelli Imbiss places here in UK here and not suceeded!
Like many things which one enjoys, it needs to come in a 'packet!' Take one of the ingredients out and it falls apart. What better than a bratti after some beers!
Eg. Fish and Chip van in Germany. Without squaddies around, quarters area etc. I believe it won't succeed!
Put a Bratti wagon outside a Army big camp, in a built up area in UK will probably work? Take the squaddies away, I believe then the local populous won't sustain the business unless there is a variety of snacks to buy. | |
| | | Rocky WOI
Number of posts : 124 Places Served : Alles uber die platz. Registration date : 2009-11-23
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 13:33 | |
| Fantastic! Agree with all that has been said, but I've never given up trying to recreate the dream since leaving the mob. How bloody sad is that eh?
LiDL sell proper 'German' bratties and if you mix some curry powder (the bog standard stuff not the specialist gear) with ketchup, put it in a shallow pan and heat it up (mixing as you go), you get a pretty good substitute for the real stuff. Pour it over your bratty and sprinkle a pinch of curry powder over the top of the sauce. Get yourself a bottle of Becks/Paderborner/Herforder, etc, close your eyes and you're on the Sennelager Strip. Now, as for the Pommes mit Mayo....those thin cut fries that you can buy from the supermarket aren't a bad substitute but I'm afraid that Helman's just doesn't do it for me.
On our last night in Bielefeld, we were invited to a neighbours for dinner. The other half took the kids and made an excuse for my absence. The truth of the matter was that I'd promised myself a currywurst as a last meal in Germany. I had three. Quality scoff!! | |
| | | bob WOII
Number of posts : 94 Cap Badge : R.E.M.E Places Served : 74c Deepcut, Bordon,Detmold, Hohne, Osnabruck, Soest Registration date : 2008-10-12
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 17:54 | |
| Gentlemen ( & ladies) I give you....................... https://www.germandeli.co.ukSadly I won't be in London till late next year but will be paying a visit to stock up what I have used from my trip to Germany next summer. | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 21:14 | |
| alan...that is, of course, exactly it re miss one 'ingredient' and the whole thing falls apart. Such an obvious truth but it didn't actually occur to me :-)
As I look back I see such a pattern....I was, as you guys say 'gob-smacked' upon returning to Canada and being invited by some of the bunch I hung out with overseas and whose families had been posted here to go out to 'the bar.'
First off, I assumed "The Bar" was the actual name of wherever it was we were going as I was used to the places we went to to have such names, even if it wasn't the actual name of the pub ("Isenbeck's" in Soest, along Hiddingser Weg enroute downtown and across from the large Belgian Bks sold Isenbeck's beer but was actually named Der Linden or something. "The Cozy" was a name we gave a pub down in the middle of Soest...I have no idea what it's real name was).
Secondly, I was so used to small neighbourhood pubs, with some character, that when we got to 'the bar' I was floored to discover it was housed in a large hotel, that we had to line up to get in, and once in discovered it to be a huge, overly-lit, ugly room with small round terry-cloth covered tables in rows and that one could not wander around with a drink in one's hand or even stand with a drink! You sat at your table and drank. Period. And the draught beer was horrible....cheap, watery, essentially flavourless stuff.
Small, independent pubs were still 15-20 years away. And the idea of a pub in the front of a residential house, attached to it, is still unheard of.
To transplant a 'gasthof' to Calgary....well, as alan suggests it just wouldn't fly! People would expect 'drink specials', access to various liquors not just beer and, on top of that, any licensed establishment has to carry a wide selection of brands, not just one like we were used to in Germany.
And alan is also correct....open a fish'n'chip stand in Germany, complete with greasy fish in that day's newspaper (do such stands still do that?) and the Germans would be aghast....and then to drown the stuff in vinegar?? eeeeewww....
I agree re Helman's Mayo -- it just isn't anything like the mayonnaise I used to smother my pommes frites in at all. Not sure what the difference was but German Mayo was more...hmmm...savoury, thicker certainly, less tangy than anything we get here. I've tried putting local commercial mayo on fries and....ugh! Two bites and I tossed it out!!! Dreadful. Just plain wrong. Sigh. Back to ketchup, I guess LOL | |
| | | alan8376 Maj Gen
Number of posts : 778 Age : 76 Localisation : Norfolk, UK Cap Badge : REME Places Served : Carlisle AAS, Aden, Hildesheim, Bordon, Fallingbostel, Dover, NI Tours, Osnabruck, Herford, Muenster, UN Nicosia, SBA Dhekellia Cyprus x2, Waterbeach, Civi Street 1988. Retired from VOSA 2007. Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 9/3/2010, 23:46 | |
| One thing that has gone unremarked on, were the German opening hours!
German Gastaetten/Bars would normally close, IF there were customers around about 1 in the morning. Those people in the know and wanted to carry on drinking, would go on to the places which were open, even in the sixties, until around 4am. Some Bratti places were often open until way after midnight!
Up until recent years in the UK, landlords called last orders around 1030ish.pm. After that, there wasn't nothing going. Even chippies were closed by 11.
In the sixties in Germany, between Hildesheim and Hameln was a 'club,' which was in a small village ((can't remember the name!). Well, from 2 until 6 in the morning they had a 'Live' show on, it was well, too 'erotic' to describe. Sorry, I am now 62yoa and can't allow such thoughts to pass through my mind without taking a tablet! | |
| | | Teabag Maj Gen
Number of posts : 960 Age : 74 Localisation : Merseyside Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Wildenrath Detmold Registration date : 2008-10-30
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 10/3/2010, 00:03 | |
| - bob wrote:
- Gentlemen ( & ladies) I give you.......................
https://www.germandeli.co.uk
Sadly I won't be in London till late next year but will be paying a visit to stock up what I have used from my trip to Germany next summer. Currywurst sauce! I think I love you. Ahem in a brotherly way of course! | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 10/3/2010, 04:34 | |
| - alan8376 wrote:
- One thing that has gone unremarked on, were the German opening hours!
German Gastaetten/Bars would normally close, IF there were customers around about 1 in the morning. Those people in the know and wanted to carry on drinking, would go on to the places which were open, even in the sixties, until around 4am. Some Bratti places were often open until way after midnight!
Up until recent years in the UK, landlords called last orders around 1030ish.pm. After that, there wasn't nothing going. Even chippies were closed by 11.
In the sixties in Germany, between Hildesheim and Hameln was a 'club,' which was in a small village ((can't remember the name!). Well, from 2 until 6 in the morning they had a 'Live' show on, it was well, too 'erotic' to describe. Sorry, I am now 62yoa and can't allow such thoughts to pass through my mind without taking a tablet! And in a small village? so much for the conservatism of small town Germans! LOL Such things one could easily find in large cities like Hamburg (duh!), Stuttgart, Frankfurt, etc. but in a small rural village? I am shocked, I must say, profoundly shocked! As for the tablet you must take when thinking of such things....uhm...Viagra? | |
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| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 10/3/2010, 15:56 | |
| - bob wrote:
- Gentlemen ( & ladies) I give you.......................
https://www.germandeli.co.uk
Hmmm... I'm quite eager to know why an authentic German gastronomic experience would include.... erm... 'feminine hygiene products' (see their product line). Perhaps German tastes have changed. |
| | | donald WOI
Number of posts : 156 Age : 95 Cap Badge : 1st The Royal Dragoons - The Blues and Royals (RHG/D) Places Served : UK,BOAR,Egypt Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 10/3/2010, 16:10 | |
| Rudolphs currywurst in Detmold is the greatest.To taste really good the brattie must be piping hot.And if you like currywurst in UK put tomatoe sauce over the cut up brattie,then sprinkle it with curry powder,finish,bon appetit! ------- Don | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 11/3/2010, 02:41 | |
| Uh...donald? Shouldn't that be "guten essen"? I mean, let's not mix in French with German food...well, Indo-German food, I suppose given the curry content.
Lord, aren't we cosmopolitan! LOL | |
| | | Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 11/3/2010, 14:35 | |
| We have a continental market here in Harrogate every month or so, and a Schnelli Imbiss caravan who sells bottles of Curry Ketchup as well by the way does well as a 'speciality' but would not I think sustain itself if open every night.
I buy Bratwurst at Liddle or Aldi, grill them and warm some Curry Ketchup in the microwave to pour over them and finish it off with some sprinkled paprika. Luverly.... | |
| | | donald WOI
Number of posts : 156 Age : 95 Cap Badge : 1st The Royal Dragoons - The Blues and Royals (RHG/D) Places Served : UK,BOAR,Egypt Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 11/3/2010, 16:02 | |
| Stephen, Sorry,Guten Appetit!Nothing like a hot currywurst to warm you up in this bitter winter,with a Detmolder of course! ----- Don (und Prosit!) | |
| | | Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 11/3/2010, 16:08 | |
| - donald wrote:
- Stephen,
Sorry,Guten Appetit!Nothing like a hot currywurst to warm you up in this bitter winter,with a Detmolder or 3 of course! ----- Don (und Prosit!) or 4 in fact! Dammit, they come in packs of 6 for a resoun.... | |
| | | Stephen Lock Maj Gen
Number of posts : 937 Age : 71 Localisation : Calgary Cap Badge : Pads Brat Places Served : Father -- Canadian Army. Served Hemer, Soest, and Wetter Registration date : 2007-12-28
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 12/3/2010, 02:52 | |
| Well, you can't leave the last 2 undrank (undrunk? undrinked? hmmmm....) can you? May as well go for 6....might be a bit blotto but oh well...."-) | |
| | | TaffyS Sgt
Number of posts : 29 Age : 70 Localisation : Penarth, Bro Morganwg, South Wales Cap Badge : Army Air Corps Places Served : JTR Rhyl, Devizes, Lurgan, RAF Aldergrove x2, Topcliffe x 2 Bielefeld, Lubbecke, Munster, Middle Wallop, Hildesheim, RAF Wildenwrath Registration date : 2010-06-13
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 14/6/2010, 22:42 | |
| I love my bratties and Kartoffel puffers remeber them yum yum and i got the recepie for them some where in my house, the kids loved them and the family always used to make them for BBQ's
That club in a small village might have been outside Lubbecke and as we got on well with the local polizie (ie they used the mess for drinking and getting xmas booze on the cheap) they used to let us know when the place was due tobe raided which they did every 6 months, as the local council moved the town boundary to do it, then reverted back after the raid. | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 15/6/2010, 09:19 | |
| LOL there must be more posts on here about bratties than anything else. I'd just like to point out that the curry wurst was invented in Hamburg by the way. | |
| | | Rocky WOI
Number of posts : 124 Places Served : Alles uber die platz. Registration date : 2009-11-23
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 15/6/2010, 17:07 | |
| - jim wrote:
- LOL there must be more posts on here about bratties than anything else.
I'd just like to point out that the curry wurst was invented in Hamburg by the way. Sorry Jim... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8408716.stm(doh!...only just noticed that this clip is on the opening post!) | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 16/6/2010, 09:28 | |
| ah no, there is controversy ove this one see http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art12862.aspand "Ask any Berliner and they will tell you that currywurst was invented in Berlin by accident by Helga Heuwer in 1949 and that she patented her secret curry sauce recipe some years later. But according to Uwe Timm, a native of Hamburg, currywurst was invented there by Lena Brueker at the end of WWII. I doubt this controversy will ever be resolved" I's siding with Hamburg as it is my birthplace. | |
| | | jim Let Gen
Number of posts : 1291 Localisation : Sutton Coldfield Cap Badge : RAOC Places Served : Dad, Hamburg, Bad Oeynhausen, Iserlohn, Bury, Osnabruck, Worcester. Me Detmold, Bielefeld, NI, HK Registration date : 2008-01-03
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 16/6/2010, 15:33 | |
| We're slowing down here, The RAOC board has passed on from Bratties, through Frikadelln and are onto rollmops now. | |
| | | Mike_2817 LE Maj
Number of posts : 643 Localisation : North Yorkshire Cap Badge : RAOC Registration date : 2009-08-27
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 16/6/2010, 16:24 | |
| And Jim is the resident 'foodie' on RAOConLine LoL _________________ Sua Tela Tonanti
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| | | mjm34 Maj
Number of posts : 262 Age : 74 Localisation : Gtr Manchester Cap Badge : R.Signals Places Served : BAOR, UK, Mid East, Far East, Cent America Registration date : 2009-02-21
| Subject: Re: Einmal Currywurst mit Pommes bitte! 16/6/2010, 16:42 | |
| - TaffyS wrote:
- I love my bratties and Kartoffel puffers remeber them yum yum and i got the recepie for them some where in my house, the kids loved them and the family always used to make them for BBQ's.
Yes, loved the Kartoffenpuffers with apple sauce. Was in Munich last year during the Christmas Market season and they were selling them there, but called them Reiberdatschi. Mike | |
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