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Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 11:50 | |
| My old Regiment firing a Feu de joi at Hopton Barracks, Devizes, 1969/1970. | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 16:36 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
My old Regiment firing a Feu de joi at Hopton Barracks, Devizes, 1969/1970. That, now, is much better ! Even got one of those big poles in the right foreground........ I bet that made the windows shake and I can imagine all the happy gunners saying how delighted they were to look forward to an evening in camp boiling out the barrels ! Seriously, what was the occasion that warranted such a display ? | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 17:01 | |
| - cartav wrote:
- Shelldrake wrote:
My old Regiment firing a Feu de joi at Hopton Barracks, Devizes, 1969/1970.
That, now, is much better ! Even got one of those big poles in the right foreground........ I bet that made the windows shake and I can imagine all the happy gunners saying how delighted they were to look forward to an evening in camp boiling out the barrels !
Seriously, what was the occasion that warranted such a display ? If memory serves Cartav it was the final rehearsal before HM The Queens' review of the Royal Regiment of Artillery Woolwich, circa 1970. | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 17:03 | |
| "Look this way and I will give you a complete demonstration of the movement". | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 17:14 | |
| - Dee Z wrote:
- There is a military day at Weybourne camp tomorrow I will see what video I can take
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Uploaded at ImageFra.me A drop of Brasso wouldn't go amiss on those handwheels, etc. (see "Feu de joie" below). | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 17:20 | |
| The thing is, that when ear defenders are essential when using those piddling 5.56mm shooters they have now, nobody gave a toss about the effect of the big stuff in the '50s. All we got was "Don't flinch lad, it's only a bang ! " and some plastic plugs which stayed in the bottom of the kit bag.
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| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 17:21 | |
| - Dee Z wrote:
- C42 in a Saracen CP
Uploaded at ImageFra.me That's an ordinary Saracen, Dee Z. The Armoured Command post RA had a different setup for the commander. That radio setup is a bit unorthodox, I wonder how the driver felt, having a bleedin' great ATU stuffed into his R/H hatch ? | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 18:34 | |
| - cartav wrote:
- The thing is, that when ear defenders are essential when using those
piddling 5.56mm shooters they have now, nobody gave a toss about the effect of the big stuff in the '50s. All we got was "Don't flinch lad, it's only a bang ! " and some plastic plugs which stayed in the bottom of the kit bag. Eh? | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 1/6/2013, 19:41 | |
| I heard that ! (Pardon ?)
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| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 2/6/2013, 13:27 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
My old Regiment firing a Feu de joi at Hopton Barracks, Devizes, 1969/1970. (Whew ! I'm not saying this picture's gone wide but I had to stand in next door's garden to find the "quote" button !). Anyroad up. Shelldrake old top, can you think of a reason why each of the guns depicted has its dial sight box placed neatly by the l/h wheel ? | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 2/6/2013, 15:31 | |
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| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 3/6/2013, 10:25 | |
| - brum wrote:
(Whew ! I'm not saying this picture's gone wide but I had to stand in next door's garden to find the "quote" button !). Gott sei dank ! Thought the PC was on the blink.......... Must be some Scaley trick to disrupt comms & block the most enthralling thread in yonks........... | |
| | | Dulaigh WOI
Number of posts : 135 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick Newark Aldershot 201Shorncliffe WinterbourneGunner TOS SHARJAH Bunde 249 Singapore NE Thailand Aldershot Catterick Registration date : 2012-03-19
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 3/6/2013, 21:50 | |
| Was it difficult to clean those barrels after firing ? | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 3/6/2013, 23:14 | |
| Loads of "four by two" and a great big pull through did the trick !
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| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 4/6/2013, 11:17 | |
| - Dulaigh wrote:
- Was it difficult to clean those barrels after firing ?
Blood, sweat and tears!! | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 4/6/2013, 17:56 | |
| - brum wrote:
Loads of "four by two" and a great big pull through did the trick ! Don't be cruel ! It's a serious question ! War service lads I was with in a 25pdr TA regt used to collect up bits of silver paper and the like from fag packets, choccy bars etc. A wad shoved in between the last shot of the day & the propellant scooped some of the muck from the barrel they said, then it was boiling water from the cauldron which had been simmering away on the firing point. I never got involved......too busy with arty boards & stuff in the CP, | |
| | | Dulaigh WOI
Number of posts : 135 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick Newark Aldershot 201Shorncliffe WinterbourneGunner TOS SHARJAH Bunde 249 Singapore NE Thailand Aldershot Catterick Registration date : 2012-03-19
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 4/6/2013, 20:18 | |
| Did the barrel come up nice and silver when you finished ? | |
| | | Shelldrake FM
Number of posts : 3048 Localisation : Camberley Cap Badge : Royal Artillery Places Served : Troon, Lippstadt, Devizes, NI, Paderborn, Dortmund, Colchester, Belize, Canada, Cyprus, Gutersloh Registration date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 5/6/2013, 06:49 | |
| Don't remember any silver paper just plenty of boiling water and cotton waste. | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 5/6/2013, 08:51 | |
| - Dulaigh wrote:
- Did the barrel come up nice and silver when you finished ?
It had to be ! But for "you" in your query read "they"........... I never went the things. Heavy, noisy & hard work . It had been different with the Bofors, The BC wanted all classified marksmen, whatever their trade, to have some experience as layers. With a Bren clipped on the barrel we shot at balloons and radio controlled targets and could see what you were hitting. Or missing which was mpre often the case. | |
| | | Dulaigh WOI
Number of posts : 135 Cap Badge : Royal Signals Places Served : Catterick Newark Aldershot 201Shorncliffe WinterbourneGunner TOS SHARJAH Bunde 249 Singapore NE Thailand Aldershot Catterick Registration date : 2012-03-19
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 5/6/2013, 20:28 | |
| Thank you. | |
| | | brum FM
Number of posts : 2808 Age : 83 Localisation : Sandbach Cheshire Cap Badge : RA/QOH Places Served : JLRRA (Hereford) Nienburg Paderborn Colchester Munster Maresfield (Cyprus) Hohne Hemer Op Banner x4 Woolwich Registration date : 2010-03-02
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 6/6/2013, 23:32 | |
| - Shelldrake wrote:
A Regiment of 5.5in guns in straight(ish) line deployment in what could be Larkhill. Nearest to the camera, behind the first gun, is a Handspike - looks like it is wooden. Not too obvious from the picture, but each of those 80/100lb rounds came with a Drive Band Protector. A creation of rope and canvas, there was also, as part of it, a brass buckle of the same dimensions as the ones found on the '38 pattern webbing. To use the jargon of the day, it was really "sweaty" to have a belt, threaded with as many as possible of the aforementioned buckles. Apart from looking good, (probably "cool" in today's patois), this also became a very nasty weapon. It was not a wise move to call the Gunners "Planks" in those days ! | |
| | | cartav Maj Gen
Number of posts : 784 Age : 94 Localisation : s. yorks Cap Badge : RA (ns) RA, R.Sigs, RE ( TAVR) Places Served : Oswestry, Tonfanau, Woolwich, Osnabruck, MT School Bordon, Bulford, Manorbier, Hameln, R.Sigs Blandford, RSME Chattenden, Western Highlands. Registration date : 2011-04-26
| Subject: Re: Artillery Museum CFB Shilo, Manitoba 7/6/2013, 18:01 | |
| [Quote] Shelldrake
Don't remember any silver paper just plenty of boiling water & cotton waste. [quote]
Maybe when the old & bold had been in the desert water for boiling and chucking down 25 pdr barrels might have been in short supply and some clever sod dreamed up the silver paper dodge. Anyway, the Nos.1 collected silver paper from the first day of firing camp until all had a big ball of the stuff. Go on ! Tell me there'd be a shortage of silver paper in the desert too........ I only tell it like I saw it, every No1, war service and later entrants, had a wad of silver paper. Whether it worked or not, they though it did. But I'm also reminded of another incident.......
The town were putting on some sort of pageant, the TA gunners were to have a slot in proceedings. In a dark recess of the drill hall there were two 6 pdr brass cannon from the mid 17 hundreds, it was decided to dress up in some old kit & fire them once more at the display. A dummy run was arranged, they'd be stuffed with a thunderflash hooked up to some det cord which could be ignited through the touch hole in the back end. Everybody watched expectantly on the drill night, he who had nicked the det cord applied a match. Go off, it certainly did, and being inside the bang was better than expected. What hadn't been foreseen was that the barrel had been a handy place for depositing all the sweeping ups from 70 years back. Shredded paper, bits of Pt. One orders going back to when the place was built in 1890s floated down in an artificial snow storm. Cheers and giggles all round until someone dictated cleaning would replace trg that night.
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